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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is something serial killers do.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Serial killers decreased as policing militarized. There's a variety of sociological factors you could point to to explain this. I prefer to think the would have been serial killers joined the police force instead of being chased by the police force

(Just so we're clear I don't actually think this... Fully. But its part of it)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

its 100% because they joined the force and started killing with full impunity of the law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

With the support of the law.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't killing an animal with zero remorse one of the big signs of being a psychopath?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

They only hire their own kind

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, because psychopathy is not a real mental disorder and you won't find it in the DSM. Either way, I'd be more upset at people killing animals than having an arbitrarily labeled mental illness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok, if you insist - highly correlated with being a serial killer?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks :)

I'd love to see a study done on the correlation between being a cop and killing animals. I bet there's a definitive correlation there.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You think every slaughterhouse worker is a psychopath?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Why play dumb like this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Some of them are.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-sign-animal-cruelty-bill-law-making/story?id=67295654

So is that law of a federal felony not important because that person was a cop ?

What the fuck ?

FBI ... HELLO ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think this in any way counts as qualified... of course they'll claim it though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So the thing about qualified immunity is that unless there's existing precedent that a cop can't do this, then cops have immunity. Which is a cool catch 22 because you can't have existing precedent if every cop who's ever faced charges/lawsuits for a particular thing has gotten off because there wasn't already a precedent. It's an Ouroboros of letting cops do whatever they want.

This is beginning to change in some places, where police chiefs or their higher-ups want nothing to do with overtly shitty cops, but considering these cops have already finished their paid ~~vacation~~ suspension, I don't think they'll face any serious charges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need major police reform

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

The police are militarized state violence. They enforce the will of the state through the use of violence. That's not something that can be reformed because it's inherent to policing. Any effective reform would lead to police not being police.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Follow-up, officers returned to force with more training.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

The training:

stop wasting ammo where people can see you

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I emailed the sheriff, gave them my address and phone number, and called him a fucking cunt.

I'm done settling for being upset. Now I am going to be loud and fucking rude all the time to cops and the cheap sluts for violence that marry them.

edit: and i sent them an apology for name calling but goddamn i am fucking livid and without the ability to do anything about cops hunting domesticated animals.

FUCK

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

and the cheap sluts for violence that marry them.

60% of cops abuse their spouse. These aren't "sluts for violence", these are people who can't leave because their spouse might kill them or at the very least sic other cops on them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I understand your anger. Sadly I don't think directly all this hate towards them in this way will make things any better.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

Should be animal cruelty charges for all involved.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

What the actual fuck. Not a single person involved was like...hey maybe we should be normal human beings and use paper targets?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

People like this should be banned from ever holding a public service job again. They're in it for the power, not to help people, and they will never change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

My thirst for justice shall never be slaked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No pigs were harmed in this training exercise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

This has been posted twice, at more or less the same time. I'm removing this one as it's a link to reddit and the other is a real news story.