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[–] [email protected] 187 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Convicted PEDOPHILE rapist!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do so many headlines leave that part out? I swear like half the headlines don't feel that needs to be mentioned when it's really a huge fucking part of the story.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

if you're genuinely curious: my bet is to avoid lawsuits. mind that people who use the word pedophile colloquially usually mean people who prey on children.

in reality, pedophilia is not a legal term and not a part of the crimes or charges. it's a psychiatric disorder and in itself not the crime. laws are not concerned with the disorder so long as the person does not act on it.

on the legal side, crimes like statutory rape, child sexual abuse, or whatever it may be, are independent of the disorder and i would imagine a lot of people who engage in it might not have it; as sexual abuse is more often than not about power, not attraction.

so i imagine shit stain perpetrators like this can technically say they're not pedophiles as they aren't legally found to be so and sue for defamation. so media sticks to the legal terms.

that being said, even if they don't use the word, they should mention that the victim was a 12 year old. so instead of pedophile rapist, it can say rapist of 12 year old. afaik that's legally and technically true and shouldn't be a legal liability.

disclaimer that these are opinions of a layman, and I'm not a lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

“child rapist”

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As a Dutch guy I feel compelled to apologize for our national olypic committee selecting and sending this douche nozzle to Paris.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Fellow embarrassed Dutch guy chiming in.

Edit: why did I get down voted for being an embarrassed Dutch guy? LOL, that's what we are!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That right there is more remorse than I've seen from the rapist himself...

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago

Let's do politicians next.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Fucking finally. Price of shit rapist. Maybe the Dutch will reform their legal system in-time for the next Olympics?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Im not sure if any legal system would say a felon cant join the olympics. Unless you mean having draconian punishments like the US. Then no, I hope they dont damage their legal system to become that corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (22 children)

He got 13 months for rape and only one of those months was actually their choice the other 12 was the UK government's choice. Essentially they thought that one month of imprisonment for rape was acceptable.

They clearly need some change.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think having a child rapist not be in the Olympics isn't draconian. The Dutch sound a little too lax with their "formication" laws

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

People seem to be more outraged that a rapist is allowed to play sportsball than rapists being allowed to become president.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

only if booing was able to remove pedophile and rapist politicians from power too

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean, using your voice to influence the outcome of politics is kind of how a democracy works. Ideally, at least. But I agree with your sentiment.

Also, for a second I imagined a scenario where voting is done by small groups in booths, booing for the politicians they don't like and clapping for the ones they like, and then someone would watch the tapes and just count how many people booed and clapped at every politician.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (17 children)

I'm very conflicted about this whole thing. On the one hand, yeah it's kind of a scandal and people have every right to be booing him every time he touches the ball.

On the other hand, he was convicted, sentenced, did time and is now back in society apparently showing remorse. People are calling for his career to end and various wishes of death on him. Why can't he continue his life?

Are we supposed to lock up all criminals forever? Kill them? Just not allow them to follow their chosen career after getting out? Or is it just sports they shouldn't be allowed to participate in?

[–] [email protected] 119 points 4 months ago (4 children)

apparently showing remorse

He showed no remorse. He called it nonsense. He said he made mistakes as a youth. He has not even bothered to offer anything in the way of an apology.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago (4 children)

He did barely a year of prison... I personally don't quite think it's enough for raping a kid, but hey that's just my opinion

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

It seems like a lot of criminals who "did their time" really didn't do much at all.

Compare that to a lifetime of hurt caused to the victim(s) and their families, and it just doesn't seem good enough.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (19 children)

Enough for what? Your sense of vengeance? I don't know, only you can tell... Enough for rehabilitation? I don't know, but it is possible. Time needed for rehabilitation varies widely. It's quite possible the year was enough. One thing we do know is that the Netherlands is heavily in favour of rehabilitation over punishment, since rehabilitation actually forwards society

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

I am European and heavily against punitive justice. But I think one year of prison for a crime almost universally considered among the worst is not enough for rehabilitation, and I find this opinion validated by the lack of understanding or even remorse shown by the guy in public statements

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree, it seems like a small amount on the face of it.

But at the same time, I'm more inclined to trust the judgement of the prison system (at least in The Netherlands) as to whether he is ready to return to society.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

It's a good thing the court of public opinion still has a voice and doesn't approve of child rapists quite so heartily as the Dutch government. What "time" did he do - like 11months? And he was never remorseful in the slightest. If his only real punishment is going to be him and his country getting booed by the world at the Olympics, I'm happy there's at least that.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

did time and is now back in society apparently showing remorse.

Nope, neither of those.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

On the other hand, he was convicted, sentenced, did time and is now back in society apparently showing remorse.

He hardly did any time at all. Frankly you do more time for a parking ticket. Also when did he show remorse like whenever has he ever shown any remorse at all?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

he can continue his life, but get the fuck out of public positions like this if youre a fucking pedo rapist

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

How about "not put them representing your country, where other people might understand that as an endorsement as see him as a role model".

There is shades of grey between "killing him" and "send him to the Olympics".

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

He's only 29, this is gonna haunt him for a LONG LONG time.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It might even ruin his chances for getting to the Olympics and representing his country on the world stage.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every time a rapist is sad or something bad happens to them, I smile. The worse the event, the happier I am. Death should be their only release from torture. I accept no less and grant no pity, no matter how bad it gets for them.

And it goes double for Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Good for the crowd.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sad. Hope he doesn't fall into a wheat thresher on his way to the loser's bunks.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

How is there no mechanism to remove him? I mean, ideally he shouldn’t have been selected in the first place but under the insanely charitable assumption that it was sloppiness and not active negligence that recruited him.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (12 children)

It's not the Olympic organizers' job to disqualify someone based on how immoral, criminal, of poor character or despicable a person is (on who's laws anyway?). This is a major failure on the country's olympic committee selecting these people to represent themselves to the world.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (9 children)

On what grounds would he be removed though? Is there a reason countries shouldn't select athletes that have been to prison?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

On the grounds that the Olympic Games is mostly a propaganda event and he’s absolutely terrible propaganda?

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