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I know MediaBiasFactCheck is not a be-all-end-all to truth/bias in media, but I find it to be a useful resource.

It makes sense to downvote it in posts that have great discussion -- let the content rise up so people can have discussions with humans, sure.

But sometimes I see it getting downvoted when it's the only comment there. Which does nothing, unless a reader has rules that automatically hide downvoted comments (but a reader would be able to expand the comment anyways...so really no difference).

What's the point of downvoting? My only guess is that there's people who are salty about something it said about some source they like. Yet I don't see anyone providing an alternative to MediaBiasFactCheck...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've downvoted it on articles where political bias is completely irrelevant.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It hides the most important stuff behind accordions and there are some sources for bias & reliability checking the community favors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I downvote every bot post I come across

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

For one, it bases it's bias assessments on American politics. The UK is less right-wing than the US but when this bot comes along it calls a source which we might call centrist, "left".

In a way, it's like an attempt to shift the overton window for other countries closer to the US, and that's not a good thing.

Of course, don't expect this to be addressed by @[email protected].

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I use an instance that does not display or parse downvotes or permit them locally.

So I don't see the phenomenon. I don't care about downvotes. I only see the upvotes; which are a far better indicator to me as to how useful a post I made is. If someone posts trash or extremist things; I block them. If they try to argue in bad faith or with far too extremist of a viewpoint, I block them.

The bot doesn't always get the most upvotes but it does have it's uses. As someone who has used the Ground News app in the past; I have a sense of their rating scale and I do find that it helps classify things; although you should always use your own discretion and not just blindly trust the bot.

But most people who downvote this bot, do so for completely wrong reasons. Usually they're upset because they disagree with the assessment of the bot, or do not understand it's scale. Maybe they don't like their viewpoint's position being laid bare for all to see.

Maybe that should be explained more; and there's posts on Ground News' website that EXPLAINS how their rating system works. Perhaps the bot should link them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I really like it, but I can see people being upset if it doesn't align with their world view.

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