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Mina Smallman, the mother of two women murdered in a London park, has forgiven their killer but not the two Metropolitan police officers who took and shared photos of their bodies, she said.

Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman were reported missing on 6 June 2020, the day before friends discovered their bodies in a park in Wembley, north London, after organising their own search party.

Police officers Deniz Jaffer and Jamie Lewis were ordered to guard the scene. While there they took photos, some showing the bodies, and shared them in two WhatsApp groups, calling the victims “dead birds”. They were each jailed for two years and nine months in 2021.

Smallman told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme she had forgiven her daughter’s killer, Danyal Hussein, but not Jaffer and Lewis.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

“It’s one of those things that people might not understand. The majority of the police are good people. I’m invited all over the country by different constabularies to come and talk to them about my experience,” she said.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

8 of you don’t understand sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

22 do tho, which is nice. ;)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We don't have to agree with her.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I do, though

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Fuck the police

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wait you forgave the killer that quickly?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

forgiveness is often for yourself, not the third party.

It doesn't change anything for the killer to be forgiven in your mind, but it changes something in your mind to forgive.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

The killer was pretty obviously insane. He was making a sacrifice to a demon which he thought would allow him to win a lottery. He's also in jail for life.

I can see it could be harder to forgive someone with no real excuse who just violated your dead daughters' privacy for clout.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Forgiveness doesn't necessarily mean you're cool with it and you're ok now. In buddhism it is taught that suffering caused by someone creates a debt. You owe the people who made you suffer a restitution for that debt. So in essence, you owe justice or suffering to the killer. But so long as you are trying to collect on that debt, you are suffering the whole time. To forgive is to let go of that debt. You're not ok with it, you just let yourself stop suffering for that collection (though the suffering of the person missing still remains).

I think this is what she meant. She managed to let go of collecting that debt faster for the actual murder than the disrespect of the police officers. Maybe because of the position of authority of the police or the circumstances of the murder.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

What the fuck is wrong with people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Mina Smallman, the mother of two women murdered in a London park, has forgiven their killer but not the two Metropolitan police officers who took and shared photos of their bodies, she said.

Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman were reported missing on 6 June 2020, the day before friends discovered their bodies in a park in Wembley, north London, after organising their own search party.

Smallman told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme she had forgiven her daughter’s killer, Danyal Hussein, but not Jaffer and Lewis.

I feel really honoured to meet the parents and the women’s groups who are supporting victims, survivors of male aggression.

Smallman is in touch with the families of other women murdered by men, including Sarah Everard’s mother, Susan.

This month, Carol Hunt, 61, and two of her daughters, Hannah, 28, and Louise, 25, were found injured in their home in Bushey, Hertfordshire, and died shortly afterwards.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

This summary is completely incomprehensible