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The energy giant Shell has quietly backed away from a pledge to rapidly increase its use of “advanced recycling”, a practice oil and petrochemical producers have promoted as a solution to the plastics pollution crisis.

“Advanced” or “chemical” recycling involves breaking down plastic polymers into tiny molecules that can be made into synthetic fuels or new plastics. The most common form, pyrolysis, does so using heat.

Shell has invested in pyrolysis since 2019, touting it as a way to slash waste. That year, the company used oil made via pyrolysis in one of its Louisiana chemical plants for the first time. And it began publicizing a new goal for the technology: “Our ambition is to use 1m tonnes of plastic waste a year in our global chemicals plants by 2025.”

But recently, the company rolled back that promise with little fanfare: “[I]n 2023 we concluded that the scale of our ambition to turn 1m tonnes of plastic waste a year into pyrolysis oil by 2025 is unfeasible,” it said in its 2023 sustainability report, published in March.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

~~Advanced~~ Recycling doesn't work because it was always a scam to maintain the status quo and fuck us all over in exchange for profit. They're finally having to show face. Fucking awful company.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Plastic recycling is bullshit. A lot of recycling is fine- paper, glass, metal, all recyclable. And they should be because we use up way too many trees, way too much sand and destructively mine way too much metal.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Good point! I'll one up and say reuse of those materials works exponentially better than recycling. And of course reduction of use is exponentially even better than that. But those words dont work well with the consumer capitalist oligarchs so they never talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oddly enough, no one accepting glass as a recyclable material. It's always "more work than it worth". Infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I.e. not as cheap as killing the planet with plastics. Sure, there are environmental costs, but we won't see those this quarter!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Glass recycling is bullshit too.

Should be deposits and reuse on those, not [edit: as much focus on] recycling

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Glass is not just used for bottles and some bottles break.

There's also a crisis right now regarding sand- https://theweek.com/news/science-health/960931/why-is-the-world-running-out-of-sand

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some break, yes. I’m not saying glass shouldn’t be recycled at all but it shouldn’t be the first and only step, the default go-to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Although I would also suggest that we shouldn't be drinking so much of what is going into all the bottles- glass and plastic- to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

That would be a plus too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

This is not even showing face. Only a fraction of the people that saw the initial announcement and subsequent PR will see this article. They'll still be seen as 'trying to pivot to renewables' or 'trying to mitigate pollution'.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Screw pledges. FORCE them to do shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I pledge to force them to keep their word

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Pyrolysis is neither new nor advanced. It was also never going to happen and is worse than regular recycling of plastic. It was all PR. We need to rid ourselves of single use plastics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

worse than regular recycling of plastic

In case people don't know why it's worse - it uses a lot more energy to do pyrolysis than it does to just make new plastic. It's bad enough that it's worse for the environment than just making new plastic.

In any case no plastics recycler has any intention of doing this except in "pilot studies". It's a dead duck and everyone in the industry knows it. As /u/SeaJ said, it's just PR.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Plastic can only be recycled so much. Burn the too low quality to generate energy? Could get rid of a few oil power plants instead, there's enough plastic swimming in the sea.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

"The people pulling strings behind the curtain at Shell slowly creep toward continuing to be world class cunts"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I really want everything to come in aluminum packages so that I can either recycle or reuse them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Pope shits in woods etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The problem, if anyone is wondering, is that it's hard. Most ways of doing it produce a lot of complicated heavy molecules with no real use (except fuel, but you could also just burn the plastic).