this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2024

1033 points (96.7% liked)

Science Memes

11161 readers

2019 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.

Rules

Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
Keep it rooted (on topic).
No spam.
Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.

Research Committee

[email protected]

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

1033

GLAMour (mander.xyz)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

89 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 222 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Is there a source for these haughty, cackling archeologists making fun of hairdressers or is that just to manufacture some kind of underdog victory scenario?

[–] [email protected] 106 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Stephens

Meme is dramaticised of course.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

That's really funny

[–] [email protected] 82 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Option number 2

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-woman-is-a-hair-style-archaeologist-82478448/

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago

The latter. "everybody clapped" clickbait.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you want an actual example of a haughty, cackling asshole ignoring a woman's expertise, this clip of Joe Rogan will make your blood boil

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

a haughty, cackling asshole ignoring a woman's expertise

Boy howdy, that's a spot-on description. Never listened to him because I expected it to be trash; but I didn't realize the situation was so dire

Motherfucker leans into sensationalism and shock-value, because he'll be forgotten as soon as he shuts the fuck up—and of course he won't have any useful skills to hold a job with real value afterward. Fucking cowardly shits, afraid to work on something of substance when the fame/infamy runs dry

So yeah, it indeed made my blood boil a little lol. Wish I could say it was mostly pity for him being so... dumb? But nah, that's a person acting like garbage and should be treated as such (until proven otherwise)

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 139 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love this story because just imagine the setup.

All the top world archaeologists are in the biggest archaeology summit trying to figure this out. The queer son of the most famous archaeologist was visiting because his dad was trying to make him a real man and follow science instead of fashion. He takes a look at the poorly design slides being project and makes a snarky remark. "they're definitely sewed 💀😭💅". But everyone made fun of him so he took it personally. The next day he came back with an exact replica of the hair style sewed on his bestie's hair. In awe, everyone got up and clapped. The kid's name? Albert fucking Einstein.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Not sure whether you meant to express disbelief or just to be silly, but you did make me wonder if this meme was legit or not. It is!

[–] [email protected] 116 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but also:

And the journals quickly recognized her expertise.

So no crying historians in that story. She researched, proposed an article and the community said: "Good idea!" The whole "Oh, all those fine scientists laughed about the average joe/jane!" is just a common tale in those stories.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

It's a common conservative thing to own the libs.

Also wasn't so fast:

Through trial and error she found that she could achieve the hairstyle by sewing the braids and bits together, using a needle. She dug deeper into art and fashion history books, looking for references to stitching.

In 2005, she had a breakthrough. Studying translations of Roman literature, Ms. Stephens says, she realized the Latin term “acus” was probably being misunderstood in the context of hairdressing. Acus has several meanings including a “single-prong hairpin” or “needle and thread,” she says. Translators generally went with “hairpin.”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Wow, that's some serious anthropology, that's awesome!

load more comments (3 replies)

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine asking a subject matter expert. What a concept!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (7 children)

And then discounting their opinion.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As an IT guy, a chef, and a jack of all trades and master of few, that happens far more often than I would care to admit. I have literally had people tell me, "Well, yes you know more about [blank} than anyone I've ever met, but your analysis doesn't {make line go up] so it must be wrong, because [line must always go up.}

Fucking Jack Welsh. I wish I could build a time machine and shoot that shortsighted asshole between the eyes just before he laid off his first GM employee in the name of imaginary profit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

...then retired and receive the biggest severance package in history up to that point (417 million in 2001).

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Yup, that's the imaginary part of the story.

load more comments (5 replies)

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same vibes as this video with Adam Savage. Apparently this piece of armour was a big mystery with tons of different drawings etc trying to place it as horse armour when Adam almost immediately correctly identifies it when first looking at it.

This is the power of diverse experience where experts can have a blind spot that's easily solved by others that have a different perspective.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Tldw crotch protector, and the historians did know that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well it took them 50 years to figure out, whereas Adam guessed it immediately.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Didn't they confirm it after 50 years? They had suspicions in different directions, including crotch armor?

load more comments (2 replies)

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Historical hairdressing tutorials based on archaeological research and primary sources."

https://www.youtube.com/@jntvstp

Janet Stephens; that's her. i knew i kept that yt subscription for a reason

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is why you go to subject matter experts.

/Software development rant

load more comments (3 replies)

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

Some of the hairstyles by Janet Stevens.

There's a video that shows more, but there're advertisements and it's irritating.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

GLAM = Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (14 children)

So wigs, not mittens.

load more comments (14 replies)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'd trust a hairdresser when it comes to hair questions… EDIT: Turns out in real life, they did trust the hairdresser, the fact about sewing is true but the overall story is dramatized.

Bad at styling my long hair but I have definitely tried and from what I did in the few hair tutorials I followed, and from knitting, I absolutely believe that making these complicated, pretty, structured knots/loops was done by sewing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I guess there had to be a way to have fake-ass hair extensions before plastic was invented.

load more comments (7 replies)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Aren't weaves basically sewn in?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

....am I missing something? These are stone. They're carved. How did they know these were real styles used with people, and not fantastical for the statues?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't fit with the artistical trends of the times... It's not a bad hypothesis, but if that was a trend the hair is not the only feature that could be imagined.

Now I can't stop picturing archeologists unearthing an anime bust.

load more comments (1 replies)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (6 children)

How do you sew hair?