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[–] [email protected] 271 points 4 months ago (21 children)
[–] [email protected] 139 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Whoever added the citations to this is doing extremely important work. It needs to be finished though.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Be the change you want to see in the world

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

These kinds of projects are good for crowd sourcing. Nobody has read all 900 pages, and watched all the speeches and read all the articles, etc etc. But the community taken together, can. Or at least come much closer anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 250 points 4 months ago (22 children)

Jfc Americans. How did any one not know about project 2025?

The rest of the world is watching you elect your new supreme leader eternal and you guys are just sleep walking it through.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Yeah, but the not fascist was bad at speaking, so I'm just gonna elect the fascist person by not voting."

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (5 children)

...the not fascist was bad at speaking one time, so I’m just gonna elect the lying/rapist/felon fascist person by not voting

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It's how bad our media silos are and how disengaged many people are. Not a good sign.

My wife who has enough on her plate working in trauma just texts me out of the blue yesterday with something like, "just read about project 2025. Holy shit!"

I was like oh sweet summer child lol.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Calm down…

Our news outlets are too busy reporting on Biden right now. Please give them some room to breathe…

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When I've shown people Project 2025 they often don't believe it's real. Despite evidence to the contrary.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

Most people in all countries are extremely ignorant and disinterested about politics. Do not expect more of American voters than you'd expect of your own country's voters.

A great example of that is Brexit in my own country. People voted for lots of ridiculous reasons both for and against, and in the end we got a crazy close but negative outcome. Just under 52% voted in favour of brexit, but I guarantee much less than half that number truly understood the issues and knew what they were voting for. It was a vote that should never have happened - it was all an arrogant ploy by David Cameron to increase control over his own party and instead it has torn the whole country apart.

People complain about the news media but its just a product of the lazy and disinterested electorate. Mass media doesn't cater to fact and debate, it caters to shock value to try and get people watching.

That's why biden has to go - most people don't care that trump is a lunatic or biden has had successes. Not enough will care about Project 25 even though it will damage many of trumps own voters. All they care about is that biden looks old and sounds like he's dementing because that's all that's cutting through.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (4 children)

american politeness requires that we not talk about politics in public and that encourages americans to ignore everything until it impacts them; broaching the subject will label you a malcontent.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (6 children)

american politeness requires that we not talk about politics

Is that really a thing?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (8 children)

People who talk about politics and religion at work tend to get hated at best and fired at worst.

People who talk about politics and religion on social media risk getting lectures from relatives and losing friends.

So yeah, people do not talk about politics and religion in America a lot of the time.

Honestly, the only reason my mother-in-law and I have maintained a really good relationship over the decades is because we just don't talk about religion or politics. My wife and I are pretty much on the opposite side of the map from her on both. So we just don't talk about it rather than become enemies. Maybe that's not the right way to go about things, but it's saved a lot of stress where we don't need it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Total corporate media capture pulling the wool over eyes of primary voting blocs.

Most of the rest of us are too busy working 3 shit jobs to barely survive to be paying any attention to politics.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Trump World sounds like the shittiest theme park. Even worse than that Willy Wonka Experience.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Did the Epstein island rebrand?

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 4 months ago (8 children)

What the fuck, people are JUST NOW hearing about this??

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

You'd be surprised at just how little the average voter knows about politics. There's a reason a lot of people wish politics would go back to being boring and not something everyone talked about.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A couple days ago, new evidence came out about Trump's pedophilia. I have yet to hear about it in mainstream media.

Jane Doe vs Trump & Epstein. All of the corroborating depositions are out there. Nobody cares for some reason.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The fox news affect. My mother thought all of these policies were coming from democrats, for some fucking reason

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Please, weaponize this! I know the last place you want to go is a Fox News comment section or FB posts but these people need to see how they will be personally affected too.

Weaponize the cuts to social security and medicare as much as you can. Yes, lots of conservatives are a lot cause. But I'm not asking you to reach them on the moral issues, I'm asking to get them rightfully scared of losing social security and medicare/medicaid. Make it personal.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago (11 children)

"trump world" sounds like the most disappointing and predatory theme park ever.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want to get off Mr. Trump's wild ride!

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

my job has me on i40 in Tennessee a good bit and there was a huge mega porn store off one of the exits

it has been shut down and reopened as a Mega MAGA Store

trump beat titties official the country is fucked

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Project 2025 has been around for years. How have people not noticed it?

[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Because republican voters don’t pay attention to what their party is doing. They only know that trans bad, brown bad, gay bad

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Or many republican voters do know about project 2025 and they like it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (7 children)

There’s some of those, sure, but this shit like banning contraceptives, banning no fault divorce, attacking Medicare and social security-these are universally unpopular policies. That’s why trump is trying to pretend his campaign didn’t literally write this shit.

The conversations I’ve had in the Deep South with Republicans always boil down to: they have no idea.

I have found that the best way to argue with republicans is to tell them directly what they’re actually voting for, because they don’t know. They’re either dumb as shit, or they’re greedy and think democrats will raise taxes.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Don't forget helping the poor bad. I'm pretty sure they hate the poor more than any other category. They don't help the poor, just like american jesus intended.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because on its surface it sounds like something the magas would make up.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago

If he is elected, they won’t keep trying to pretend that they are against these positions.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (5 children)

BS. This is exactly what Rump world wants. They love consolidation of power, Christian nationalism, and taking power away from non-white men. They are worried that centrist and moderate red voters will hear about it.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what the headline was about?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tell me about it. Weird tone of writing for a comment completely aligned with the article.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago

"BS" then goes to repeat what the headline says.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Sadly my Right Wing friends insist it's "Just the Heritage Foundation" and that the "REAL" GOP already rejects it

So naive...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No conservative voter thinks poorly of Project 2025. Every conservative in the U.S. is either fine with it or excited about it.

A conservative who pretends it's not their platform is lying, either to placate you or to save face.

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation, even when those words come from friends or family.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

They were proud of it up until not long ago, trusting to the ignorance of the "average American" about policy details. Then the Supreme Court ruling came.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

My family is pretty politically aware and my brother only just started talking about it, so it will take a bit for word to spread.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

They have a website.

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