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[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 months ago (1 children)

wow this is very good news. I always feared that at some point some billionaire ass will buy Proton. That will be impossible now.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"that will be impossible now"

Life uh... Finds a way.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

Example: ~~open~~closedAI

[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 months ago

Proton’s mission has always been unique. Most companies are created to be sold, and they achieve that by placing profit above all other considerations. For most businesses providing “services” to the masses, the easiest way to profit has been to misuse user data and engage in surveillance capitalism to the detriment of society and democracy. At Proton, we have intentionally taken a different path to achieve a more difficult mission. We want to remake the internet in a way that is private by default and serves the interests of all of society, not just the interests of a few Silicon Valley tech giants. In short, we want to create an internet that is able and willing to defend freedom, no matter the cost.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They pulled the opposite of the enshitification, haha.

Positification ftw

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

The word is "engoodening".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a much better opposite than envomitification.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Or enemisation/suppositorisation

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Unshittification.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Andy is my hero. He wanted to create an ecosystem to rival Microsoft and Google, without their bullshit.

Since conception, his mission statement was to work for the people who supported Proton's dream, and now he's ensuring that dream doesn't get fucked with by people with bad incentives.

LEGEND

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago

As their customer, I'm extremely happy to hear that.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is amazing news. I've been thinking about switching to Proton for a while now. Think this may just be the drop that makes me do it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Swapped to their mail from Google finally about a year ago, it was a pain in the ass, but have been slowly removing myself from the google ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly the same here. It's not perfect... it's slow, it doesn't work with your mobile mail client... but it's better than the supervillain levels of evil that Google is pushing out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mobile mail client? Why not use the Proton Mail app?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

because you can't add non-proton email accounts

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Ah I guess I didn't think of that use case, it being the Proton app. I think I read somewhere it's possible with the Windows client, through their Bridge software. I haven't had the need to use the Proton client for other email accounts personally.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

Most companies try to earn community trust through words but proton put it all out on the table.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Wow. 👏👏👏

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Heartening news. I look forward to Proton's future.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What Mozilla should've been.

An organisation with products people want to pay for. Instead they ended up as a shill for Google with a CEO more concerned about her paycheck than actually making good products 😞

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

The comments here and technology community on lemmy.ml vs the ones that on the technology at lemmy.world thread sure were an interesting contrast when it was first posted...

But anyways, this is great news.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If they enable IMAP for all accounts that'd be awesome. I've been reluctant to use their mail system in case it just becomes another lock-in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, not being enable to integrate with the system both Linux and Android is what is bothering me the most.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But isn't this exactly what the Protonmail bridge is for? I don't use Proton myself (self-hosted Mailcow) but afaik Imap doesn't support public keys/PGP the way Proton is using it, hence one needs the bridge to use normal Imap clients like Thunderbird.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Sure, but this is only for mail, not even calendar. Also, they do not push on flatpak which limits availability.

Contacts cannot be synced on Android. Drive is nonexistent on Linux and I do not think it is a work in progress project yet. Drive cannot sync folders on Android either.

These are basic features...