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Turkey has halted all trade with Israel, citing the “worsening humanitarian tragedy” in the Palestinian territories, which prompted strong criticism from the Israeli foreign minister.

“Export and import transactions related to Israel have been stopped, covering all products,” Turkey’s trade ministry said late on Thursday.

“Turkey will strictly and decisively implement these new measures until the Israeli government allows an uninterrupted and sufficient flow of humanitarian aid to Gaza.”

Israel’s foreign minister, Israel Katz, accused Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, of acting like a “dictator” after the restrictions were first reported.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Damn, rare W from Erdogan here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's coincidental.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"Humanitarian tragedy"

Just say "genocide", cowards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If you trick him into saying that word he gets banished to his dimension

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ask an Armenian why Erdogan chooses those words

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ooh pick me, pick me, I'm American, but my great grandfather was Armenian. Want to know why he came to America suddenly?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It’s terrible. If it wasn’t for one of my best friends being Armenian, I most likely wouldn’t know. They didn’t teach that in any school I attended (thru college)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the genocide of the Armenians is not taught about in German schools because it regularly resulted in attacks on teachers from turkish parents if teachers so much as spoke about it to their students.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Wtf? Why not just imprison the pro-genocide fucks? Why limit education instead?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Probably politicians pandering to the significant Turkish-German demographic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

My great grandfather survived, my grandpa went on to have 7 kids and 5 of them went on to have kids (that we know of). We made the best of it. I'm going to teach my daughter about it when she's old enough to understand. Just do good in the world and tell not only our story, but all the other ones too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I learned about the Armenian genocide as well as the ongoing struggles of the Armenian people because of System of a Down. Pretty sure if it wasn't for that band, I would have never heard about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

At least you didn't learn about it from the Kardashians like millions of people did 😬

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gd, when even fucking Erdogan thinks you're going too far. I know they're a usually antagonistic force to the West, but they are a real player in the region, so this is still good pressure on Israel. Even if it happens to be opportunistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Turkey/Erdogan aligns with the West most of the time. He's antagonistic sometimes, and that's what makes headlines so is the image most people have developed of him. He's been staunchly pro-Palestine since he took office in 2003, and has had pretty poor relations with Israel for almost the entire last 20 years, so this is not surprising

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Let’s make no mistake, this dude isn’t doing this out of some semblance of morals. Dudes an authoritarian dictator

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

He was forced into doing this by the opposition. The opposition won a major election against Erdo in March, and Israel was a major point he got hit on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I actually would like to know the answer. Maybe he's trying to get an easy win over the West? Maybe he's trying to more strongly align with the Muslim world?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Analysis: Ruling party errors give Turkey’s opposition hope for future

Finally, another factor has emerged in the past six months as a result of Israel’s war on Gaza – a widespread perception that the government has ignored its core base’s emotional response to the suffering in Gaza and disappointment with its policies on the issue.

This has created a sense of betrayal and alienation among those who have traditionally supported the ruling party because of its ties to Islamic identity and has been one of the fundamental causes of the rise of the conservative New Welfare Party, which advocates cutting trade links and severing diplomatic ties with Israel.

Turns out Genocide on brown people is less popular in the middle east.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

he would never do that, if the second biggest islamic party, known as yeniden refah partisi, didn't say so. some ak parti voters, voted to yeniden refah partisi, just because they didn't want this to continue. fatih erbakan, who is in charge of that party, probably will cause more problems in the future for erdogan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Erdogan stopped wagging his ZIonist tail real quick after his massive losses in the recent election

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A right-wing dictator fighting another right-wing dictator. Kinda funny

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

TFW someone stands up to Israel but its fucking Erdogan

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks to the complexities or modern geopolitics and culture, as well as pressure from Turkish public opinion, just this time Erdoğan is on the right side of History.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

At the surface level - itd call it moralistic at best.

~~Whether it was a good move - Israel is something like 76% of Turkey exports. You think that will bode well for jobs and general quality of life?~~

Sorry, looks like it's much less. Going to have to go back and check where I found that.

Edit: great, now confused. I think it's 76% of Israel imports was turkey exports. Source is Bloomberg, but posted on .ml

https://lemmy.ml/post/15161455

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Israel is 2.8% of Turkeys exports.

Quality post +1

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Found the link- looks like 76% of Israel imports are Turkey exports. Excuse the .ml link

https://lemmy.ml/post/15161455

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Turkey is invading Rojava/Kurdistan right now. What a fucking double standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You mean Syria?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can't believe joe brandon and snoozin trump are being outflanked on the left by a right wing dictator. Broken clock or something I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Erdoğan resisted this as long as possible. But the public opinion in Turkey is so strongly anti-genocide right now that he was forced into this by the opposition.

Erdoğan loves to talk tough on Israel, but normally he doesn't actually follow up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Turkey is strongly anti-genocide as long as it doesn't involve Kurds or Armenians, then they are completely pro-genocide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

*the Turkish nationalists.

There's millions of lovely and non-genocidal people in Turkey. Source: learning Turkish since 2015 and travel there a lot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Fun fact. Azerbaijan and Israel are allies. Israel receives most of its Oil and Gas from Azerbaijan, Israeli drones helped murder Armenians in the last war and Israel has a deal going on with the azerbaijani oil and gas company to developed the Gas fields they want to steal from the Palestinians at the coast of Gaza.

So if you want to be against genocide against Armenians it is a good way to go about being against supporting Israel.