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Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter (www.eurogamer.net)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Whatever it ends up being, I'm not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would've been better.

Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don't doubt Valve's technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it's technically the best turd in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's unfortunate that it's not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it's not to your tastes doesn't mean it's a waste of their talent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm just curious why Valve looked at the oversaturated hero shooter market (seriously, we've had failures 8 years ago now) and said "Oh yeah, let's devote our resources there"

edit: Like, I seriously can't understand it. Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

Overwatch 2 didn't fall because it's a hero shooter

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this is where you say "It failed because...."

My assertion was that it was an imperfect hero shooter among many hero shooters. The more competition, the harder it is to enter a game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this is where you say "It failed because...."

Gestures broadly

Not really my responsibility to make an argument for you. Of all the reasons Overwatch 2 might not have performed well, it being a Hero Shooter doesn't have any strong evidence and you didn't provide anything showing that was the reason.

One could argue Overwatch 2 being a Hero Shooter is why it didn't perform worse than it already has, given its problems.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

  1. Blizzard is bad at balancing the game - could be true of any game, doesn't have to be a shooter

  2. Blizzard cancels promised mode - Blizzard being bad at design and following through on promises.

  3. See 1.

  4. Forcing a game to become the sequel, not making meaningful changes other than monetization

  5. See 1

  6. Blizzard made a bad game

None of these are a result of Overwatch 2 being a shooter, and all of them are a result of Blizzard being shit at making quality games, caring about players, and following through on promises. So thank you, you have done a fantastic job demonstrating that Overwatch 2 being a shooter is not the reason it didn't perform well.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had a lot of good times and even more bad times with DotA over the years, until I finally freed myself from it years ago.

IceFrog being behind this backed by Valve bodes well, and I think the premise of an FPS/MOBA hybrid has promise, despite the market being insanely oversaturated already.

I'm not really interested in competitive games these days, but I hope it'll be good to watch at least. Following The International was fun even after I quit DotA.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trust me the market could use some competition. The only thing that really comes close to OW is Paladins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Was gonna say. How is the hero shooter market over-saturated? There's like 3 games that people actually know about, and like 2 of those are good/decent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Valve famously only works on what excites them. You're yelling me THIS is that?? How utterly defeatingly disappointing.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So they're ripping off the game that ripped them off. The industry is in an absolute state.

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