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I know the question is rather awkward at first and I am possibly overlooking something, but I would like to know something I really don't understand.

In the past I have used modified versions of Spotify and they are fine but obviously no modified version allows you to download songs because it is a premium function at server level and honestly I would like to have my songs on my device, so if I don't have internet I can still listen to them.

After those modified versions of Spotify, I have used apps like ViMusic, Spotube and SimpMusic which are basically Youtube Music apps but without ads and with more features, including downloading music, the problem is that they do that at the level of the app itself, not in a separate file. And I love these apps and I can not recommend them enough but my phone is a little old and I see 0 need to change it since I use it for basics usage and although this can sound dumb the interface of these apps are full of blur and unnecessary effects that make my device slow, including Spotify, and I don't like Spotify Lite because I feel it is a very trimmed version of Spotify.

So this is where my question comes in, for those who exclusively download music, how do you discover new songs? Spotify's recommendation system is great and Youtube's radio mode is very good but obviously I need to use Spotify or Youtube Music to use it and I prefer to use light apps for local playback because of what I already mentioned.

Edit: Thanks for all the recommendations! I never thought this post would get so many answers and there are too many comments to answer one by one, but I admit that the old-school method of reading blogs or magazines works well, and I also like the idea of sites like Last.fm or discogs.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the correct answer :)

sputnikmusic.com is also good for metal, punk and indie music

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is pretty interesting. I’ve read that page but I’m not sure I get the value. Is the idea that I rate the music in my library and the ratings go to this website and I get some analysis or recommendations back?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I came here just to say this. I usually now just download shit on my ipod so its godtier to get away from the soon to be overpriced streaming services

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You could look at everynoise.com to find artists close on the map to ones you like, and to discover related genres. It's based on Spotify's database.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is what honestly sold me on streaming. The access to music is unprecedented and so is the discovery.

To put it in perspective, I have added more 5-star songs to my library in the past 4 years than the previous 20. About 30% of most of my favorite songs were recommended by the system.

I love music. Unless I go deaf, I can’t see my life without it. And I’m glad on some level that it’s not as lucrative as movies so I’m not upset shelling out the monthly fee. Likely the only service that that’s good piracy can’t even come close for me on this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is why Spotify is the only streaming service I have. Is there a server with >1TB of lossless audio in my basement? Sure, allegedly. Do I want to organize it and build playlists in Plexamp until my fingers bleed? Fuck no, I'd much rather pay $5/mo for a student subscription and tap a few buttons on my phone. Even though as a musician myself it's nice to know the artists are getting a little kickback, it's not so much that I'm paying for the music as I am paying for the software.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the music people were dying to piracy for a good while there.

Spotify is streaming done right. It's all there, no need to search for which service has it, or pay 99p a track for it.

The TV and movie people should take note, because their streaming services are fucking dire in comparison. For all the stuff Disney owns, there's a surprising amount of fuck all new on Disney+. It mostly seems to be milking old shite into TV shows nobody asked for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you me? I've been going wild the last 4 years. Mind sharing a top 5 or something? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally a Spotify shilling thread

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Never mentioned what service I use 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

surprised nobody has posted soma.fm. they're a listener-supported, commercial-free internet-only radio station. i love their "fluid" channel

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this. Usually I go to my universities' underground radio station but this works just as well :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Last.fm Ever since I've created an account on last fm 15 years ago almost every song i listen to is scrobbled(last.fm fancy way of saying "put into database for statistics").

When you listen to enough bands it can actually provide good recommendations

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way. I stopped for many years after I stopped using Winamp. But it is back on after setting up Plex to last FM scrobbing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like their "neighbours" tab of people with similar listening habits. I'll choose a few accounts and look at the tracks they listened to most frequently in the last 365 days. You can find some real gems that way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use Rate Your Music but I use it in a very peculiar way. Most of my listening is from scrolling through Latest Reviews for something that stands out and listening to it.

The second most common way I use RYM is to go to the page of an album I think is really special and click on user made lists that album is a part of and scroll through for things that look interesting.

The third way is when I notice I've liked a few things from a specific scene I like to go to the page for the record label that often represents artists from that scene. Currently I'm exploring Dischord Records.

Fourth, is if a genre is obscure or specific enough I will look at the charts for that genre. This is most common with electronic music, because it's so heavily taxonomized. Take for example Purple Sound which only has a couple hundred releases associated with it.

This definitely isn't how I recommend everyone find new music. But I do recommend freeing yourself from an algorithm and forging your own path. I find that algorithms often funnel a person into some kind of local maximum where most music presented is palatable but the chance to discover something revolutionary to their tastes decreases immensely, and to me that's just a bummer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I go to concerts/look up who's touring with the band. It ends up being more than the subscription cost, but it goes to the venue and band rather than Spotify and Joe Rogan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use last.fm to track the songs i am listening to and ot gives spotify like recommendations and monthly statistics on what kind of music you listen to,top artist etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not scrolling through all the comments to see if someone mentioned this yet or not but every December I check what is on the best albums of the year lists.. Generally I check per-genre that I'm into. Like best black metal of 2023, best jazz of 2023, etc etc..

Other than that, bandcamp and YouTube are the biggest. I honestly buy more on bandcamp these days than I torrent though. It's such a great site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't I am stuck ekth the same albums send help

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pay a little to pirate. Basically I've figured out how to download a large percentage of lossless songs from playlists I find anywhere. I scrape playlists of radio stations i like. I import those CSVs into Soundiiz, which costs $4/mo. Youtube mixes I like, in they go the same way, imoporting tracklists. Using Soundiiz, I import those lists into qobuz and deezer, which I use to pull down lossless FLACs using deemix and qobuz-dl in linux. Qobuz and Deezer and other streaming services have curated playlists by staff and subscribers, I just download the whole lists. I replaced lists of my mp3s like youtube rips, with FLACs, the same way. Qobuz and Deezer have free trial memberships but TBH after the sheer amount I've pulled down from them, it's worth it to me. I've had to buy new hard drives because of this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mainly local radio broadcasts, sometimes thematic webradios such as Radio Metal. Recently I've been linking my music player to LastFM so we'll see how it performs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mainly local radio broadcasts,

I'm guessing you're not in the US? 'Cause here nearly everyone is owned by Clear Channel/iHeartMedia. Nothing of value is being discovered there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought there would at least be local community radios held by associations in the US. The way you're describing this we've got pretty much the same situation in France where all the mainstream radios are owned by one of the few media groups, but that doesn't stop local community radios from broadcasting for more than 50 years for some of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube shuffle, Bandcamp feed, internet radio stations

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

"YouTube shuffle"? Last time I heard that term, it was from ChatGPT when I complained to it that I was tired of the algorithm showing me the same videos over and over again. But I can't find a "shuffle" button anywhere on YouTube, nor do I get any relevant results after googling it. So I told GPT it was full of shit and it agreed with me.

Please tell me how to use this "YouTube Shuffle" feature.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i don't. i'm stuck with the music i listened to 20 years ago. 😐

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please do something about it!
Personally, I mostly listen to Instrumental/Vocal music since it has less psychological and informational warfare associated with it.


Chatgpt-3.5 prompt

Q: How can music stimulate the brain?
A:

Music can stimulate your brain in several ways:

  1. Emotional Response: Music can evoke strong emotions and feelings. Listening to music you enjoy can release dopamine, a neurotransmitter associated with pleasure and reward.

  2. Memory: Music can trigger memories and associations. Certain songs or melodies may remind you of specific moments or experiences, which can activate your memory.

  3. Improved Focus: Some people find that listening to music, particularly instrumental or ambient music, can enhance concentration and focus. This can be helpful for tasks that require sustained attention.

  4. Stress Reduction: Calming music can reduce stress and anxiety. It can lower cortisol levels, a stress hormone, and promote relaxation.

  5. Motor Skills: Playing a musical instrument involves coordination and motor skills, which can stimulate brain regions responsible for fine motor control.

  6. Brain Plasticity: Learning to play an instrument or engaging with complex music can enhance brain plasticity, which refers to the brain's ability to adapt and reorganize itself.

  7. Enhanced Creativity: Music can inspire creative thinking. Composing, improvising, or simply listening to music can stimulate creative processes in the brain.

  8. Social Connection: Making music with others, such as in a choir or band, can enhance social bonding and cooperation, which has cognitive benefits.

  9. Language Development: Exposure to music in early childhood can support language development and literacy skills.

  10. Cognitive Training: Some studies suggest that music-based cognitive training programs may improve cognitive functions, such as memory and problem-solving.

The effects of music on the brain can vary from person to person, but it's clear that music can have a powerful influence on your mental and emotional state.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great topic. A lot of my discovery was through /r/listentothis, but I'm 100% off reddit now, so these recommendations are helpful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i really wish there were an alternative to that sub in lemmy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is, but it's not very active at all.

[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Piracy is how i discover music, to a large extent. I see something i might like? I listen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Just steal access to someone’s Spotify credentials.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago