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Neovim all the way, super fast and lends you heavy control.
how does not having a gui work? it's just the terminal right?
There are multiple gui front ends, but its still very popular to use it in the terminal. Its a TUI, so it practically works like a GUI.
difference between cli and tui? also what frontends are good
In a cli you only type commands and send them with Enter, in a TUI you can click/move around with the arrows just like in a gui.
Edit: dont know about good front ends.
Intellij IDEA Community Edition
Lots of replies mentioning Emacs but Emacs out of the box is gonna be essentially a text editor (insert obligatory: Emacs isn't a text editor; it's a LISP interpreter).
However, install Doom Emacs, and you have a full IDE experience for essentially any language you could ask for. I highly recommend it.
Emacs is a life style
is there a flatpak of this?
I'm not too familiar with how Flatpak works but Emacs benefits from compiling it on your machine natively. Tell me what distro you're on and I can see if I can find out how you'd do that.
linux mint - can i use doom emacs btw. also thx
Following up from my previous comment, there is a Flatpak of Emacs available on Flathub. Here are the instructions for how to install, whilst enabling native compilation, which will offer a performance increase and allow you to use features such as vterm (the best terminal emulator for Emacs).
A Flatpak of Doom Emacs? No. But you can just install the normal Emacs flatpak and then install Doom Emacs with 2 simple commands:
git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs ~/.config/emacs
~/.config/emacs/bin/doom install
Emacs will read these config files from the .config/emacs directory. Doom Emacs is not a different version of the program, it's essentially just a set of configuration files.
it's not working for me? sorry to ask but could you try it? linux mint lts btw
I don't have a Linux Mint installation right now, but when I used Mint a few months ago this worked for me. The two commands are from the official Doom Emacs install guide. Could you tell me exactly what doesn't work?
when i use those commands it assume emacs is installed as a system package and installs to a different location not accessible to the flatpak
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Well nvim, obviously. It's pretty much fully featured. With LSP plugins you get all the code completion, hints, type info, docs and so on. You also get typical navigation like 'go to declaration' and some basic refactoring. And all inside the best editor there is. I'm using it for C, JS, JSX and Rust and all works great. I honestly prefer it to IntelliJ, it loads faster and is more responsive.
Helix. This is the one that could potentially be the successor to vim.
I could never be a successor to vim. However micro is a pretty good editor.
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Emacs because it lets you configure everything exactly the way you want it. You can also go with Neovim, but it only runs in the terminal.
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My favorite is Kate because it's less of an IDE and more of a text editor with side panes for the project tree and a terminal to run the program. Easy enough to set up a hot key to save-build-run. I think that's all I need?
Right there with you, I'm on the admin side of things, so the time it takes the app to start is a bigger deal to me than the full featured-ness of VS Codium, but provides contextual highlighting and some quality-of-life coding features that you won't find it text editors.
Depends on the language doesn't it?
VSCodium, emacs, vim/neovim, helix.
Helix is pretty slick, but it’s not very extensible. Very easy to use and if the out of the box features are good enough for you then it’s a fine IDE.
Neovim is my preference unless I’m working with Jupyter notebooks, in which case I switch to vscodium. It’s a pain in the ass to set up. I took the easy way out with LazyVim. It’s fast to work with and I can use it for almost everything.
I dabbled with emacs many years ago. It’s like vim but completely different. You can make it do anything. Personally, I don’t care for the keyboard shortcuts. It’s probably easier to pick up than vim, but all the key chords and sequences are too much for me. In any case, anyone willing to look at vim should also take a look at emacs.
VSCodium is accessible and extensible. You can’t go wrong with this one. It can’t refactor like the Jetbrains stuff, but if there’s anything else it can’t do then I don’t know what it is. It’s a great IDE.
Really, any of these can do just about any job and do it very well. There’s no choice that clearly stands above the others. It really comes down to personal preference.
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