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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (10 children)

As a second generation Latino I believe it has to do with assimilation. Most of my family works in construction in some way (including myself) and they're usually uneducated and easily manipulated. It's no surprise the right targets blue collar workers and bombards them with anti-social program rhetoric about "your tax dollars being used to fund the lazy" bullshit. Also, and I hate to say this, blacks and Latinos didn't mix historically. The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left and I'm still embarrassed by it - another example being that Latinos and whites get along in California jails and don't associate with blacks. Shits fucking retarded.

I can apply one of my favorite quotes to this situation: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - LBJ... but instead use brown instead of white 🤣

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left

Can you expand on this? I haven't stumbled upon this before

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It has to do with minorities coming to America, finding some success and wondering why the black community can’t seem to break through. This line of rationale is over simplifying the long standing history of racism and oppression that has kept minorities down for generations in the US. All minorities in the US face an uphill battle in a sense, but folks who migrated more recently haven’t experienced it for generations (esp like the pre-civil rights gens did). The playing field is also improving, although still has a way to go, and more recent immigrants are in a better place to possibly find some degree of success. This makes some people, who don’t take the history into account, ask, “I did it, why can’t you?” …which is the republican mentality

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

10000% this

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'll leave a few examples of what I mean but growing up in the 90's, it was cool to be racist against blacks. My family was no exception and it was expected of us to not get along. This wasn't an isolated incident as the whole world of "pick-me-minorites" (including other black people) was growing. The system made us enemies and with it came a culture of acceptable racism. So it's no surprise that these older generations still harbored some misguided hatred when the BLM protests/riots happened. My family, as much as I love them, are completely stupid and immature when it comes to racial issues. My own sweet mother is afraid of black people and is oftentimes on the giving end of some wild racist quotes. But her uncle was killed by a black man over a pair of shoes so I guess it's "justified?" Obviously not.

So it could be a case of underlying racism that pushed them over the edge. The BLM movement was viewed negatively and as "typical behavior and patterns of violence of their kind" even though the overwhelming majority was peaceful. So it pushed the center to the right the right even further.

Anyways, here's some links to the turmoil - not necessarily a direct link to my original claim but I guess you have to make the connection. The left media won't (I sound so far-right right now 🤣)

https://www.vox.com/22321234/black-asian-american-tensions-solidarity-history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooftop_Koreans

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1992/10/blacks-vs-browns/306655/

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Many Asians sadly fall victim to believing in the model minority myth, that Asians are somehow not like other immigrants because they "assimilated" in spite of racism against them without the chaotic and disruptive protests. In truth, the Asian model minority myth was and is a racial wedge used to push Asians against others, and itself perpetuates many harmful stereotypes. Never mind the fact that Asian civil rights movements were similar to (and in fact supported ) their Black counterparts, but erased from history.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks : Code Switch : NPR - https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans - The Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/

Asian American movement - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_American_movement

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember the Latino support in 2016 surprising a lot of people and it had to be explained to people that:

a) "Latino" isn't a monolithic voting block and:

b) Cubans can hate Mexicans as much as white Republicans do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Republicans are also more anti-Castro-regime than democrats, so that's another way you can slice it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because many people can only feel good about themselves if they think they are above someone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Exactly.. words of wisdom..

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (9 children)

There are stupid people of every size shape, color, gender, and ethnicity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Pendejos hay en todas partes

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The right intentionally tries to say Democrats are socialist, exactly like the socialists that you fled from in Cuba, etc. It's amazing that it works, but it does.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Latino comminities in general are very conservative due to cultural roots and emphasis on family structure and traditions around it. While its admiral traits and aspects of their culture, also makes them vulnerable to any smooth talking snake saying the leftists are coming to break up your families and force your grandkids to be gay. Combine that with a very religious background for most and it just goes to show how overtly damn racisit the right is that Latinos don't make a massive portion of their base. Its everythint the right wants for voters but they have the wrong skin color for their other core groups to tolerate enmasse.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Most latinos also come from political and economic realities that are a wet dream for conservatives (free ride for the rich, classist system, systemic racism, shameless corruption, etc.) They support the thing they ran from because they think they're 'superior' to those behind them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

bingo

also most of us lack education and critical thinking which is why we fall in the republican camp

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

“we get called ‘white supremacists’ or ‘racists.’ There’s nothing racist about a guy called Gabriel Garcia.”

Ah *checks note a Spanish name. Yes Spain has zero white supremacist. /s https://albavolunteer.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/670201-spain-dictator-salute.jpg

Being Latin American doesn’t automatically mean you got indigenous or African ancestry.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

It also doesn't preclude them from being white supremacists, just ask Enrique Tarrio.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Yeah, anyone who knows the history of Latin America knows there's a shit ton of racism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

To add; Having indigenous or African ancestry doesn't automatically protect you from adopting white supremacist beliefs

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Latinos have always been relatively conservative... but more and more Latinos are coming from deeply religious backgrounds.

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