Check ublue approach like for example in this repo: https://github.com/ublue-os/beyond
In other words, leverage native OCI containers.
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Thank you, looks very interesting.
According to the readme one has to login and issue commands at the shell - is there a way to use a kickstart file/some kind of provisioning tool like Ansible with native support for rpm-ostree?
Yeah, look at the examples here: https://github.com/coreos/layering-examples for an ansible example.
Though some modules don't work (the flatpak one doesn't work unfortunately). This is also useful: https://github.com/j1mc/ansible-silverblue
Hope it helps!
Thanks a lot, will check your links tonight. I'll try to wrap my head around why Ansible doesn't work OOTB, given Red Hats involvement with Fedora and Ansible. Am I the only who tries to use Silverblue as cattle instead of a desktop pet?!
I was curious and I was able to use ansible to install a list of flatpaks without problem
Very nice, thanks for giving it a try! :-)
No problem. If you can't get it working hit me up and I'll see what I can do to help.
The OCI features are pretty new (they won't hit Fedora until F40) so there's catching up to do still. They'll get there at some point, there's just a vast amount of existing work out there that they need to account for.
Yes, I do this with Ansible :).
There are Flatpak modules and gsettings modules to set up Gnome to your liking.
I also build my own toolbox using ansible-container.
Perfect, this was the answer I was looking for! :-)
Have you looked into NixOS instead of silverblue?
Came here to say this. NixOS does exactly what you want built in and has a lot of the same advantages as silverblue
Thirded -- OP described a usecase for NixOS perfectly.
Reusing my other answer: Thanks, I am mostly motivated by having less work using an immutable operating system. ;-)
To elaborate more: By now I want an OS that is stable, has updates automatically in the background and just a reboot away. NiXOS sounds like too much work for too little benefit for my current usage/use cases.
If you want to automate your installation there's going to be work involved no matter what you use to achieve it
NixOS is actually quite stable provided you don't use the unstable branch
lol ... I give up - installing NixOS in a VM right now. ;-)
You can see Universal Blue's custom images feature to set up an automatic image building system. You would no longer need to layer stuff since it would get cleanly built into your image already, and you can modify a list of Flatpaks to be installed on install time. You can then use Fleek with Nix to manage your dotfiles.
Definitely OT, but at this point you may want to checkout NixOS.
In fedora podcast #30 just a week or so ago there was some discussion about ansible and silverblue. I don't think it specifically answers your questions, but may be an interesting listen since you're looking into this. https://fedoraproject.org/podcast/
Nice! Listening right now, and didn't even know about this podcast! :-)
If your not scared of poor documentation, a born tinkerer, and have a lot of time on your hands, you should try Nix
Thanks, I am mostly motivated by having less work using an immutable operating system. ;-)