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Anyone who doesn't understand that connecting in any way to Facebook is not a good thing .... is either very naive, or complicit to wanting to take down the fediverse.
Facebook already has enough content and enough of a platform on their own -- they literally control half of the worldwide social media network. Why do they want to spread into this new space?
The only reason they want to be on this side is to conquer or destroy.
Tell that to @[email protected] (the creator of Mastdon, AFAIK). He's very excited about this. And I can't honestly understand why.
https://mstdn.social/@[email protected]/111576826633308486
Yea I was really confused to read that. I’m on Kbin / Lemmy significantly more than I log in to Mastadon (I think I’ve opened that app 5 times in the past year), so now I guess I’ll just delete Mastadon.
I bet he’s getting a big bag of money.
Are you truly incapable of imagining that someone might have a different opinion than you without being bribed?
"Everyone who disagrees with me must be getting paid" is not the mature take you think it is.
Are you truly incapable of acknowledging that large bags of money motivate people to do unpopular things sometimes?
I really don't care about Mastadon as I haven't used it much, but I couldn't really think of a good reason for federating with Meta.
Well a good reason could be that it brings federation to the masses. You know, like everyone who uses federated networks wants it to be. This isn't some exclusive club and wider adoption is a good thing.
If only to prove that it can work.
I wouldn't call that a good reason to team up with Meta, but I would call it a plausible. Everyone does not want to federate with the largest social media company in the world, I can promise you that. If you like federation, you'd probably like it to not be engulfed by megacorps (unless you stand to profit from it).
So you have evidence of bribes?
That's cool. Please share with the class.
LMAO... "bribes"... no, I have no evidence of "bribes." I don't have any evidence of a financial incentive either, as very clearly evident by my phrasing starting with "I bet..." I'm simply relying on 40 years of not having my head completely up my own ass to make some inferences about things, and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. I think you're being intentionally obtuse. None of this really is impactful, but you sure seem to have an agenda.
You have evidence that I'm wrong, correct?
That’s not how the burden of proof works.
Do you understand what "federating" means? It's a permission, not an obligation, for the instances to interact. It can also be filtered in any number of ways by any user.
Just migrate your account to a different instance, if you plan to use it. It's not difficult and many of them already defederate from Threads (mstdn.social, for instance).
I think I've logged in for a collective 15 minutes. I deleted it about 45 minutes ago.
The fediverse means all of them. Mastodon users post to Lemmy and Kbin. We'll see threads here.
Not if you block them. Up to you, though.
Let's apply Occam's Razor. We all created these juggernaut social media vampires in the 2000s as an alternative to isolated forums and the first federation attempts with Webrings. When it started, Facebook was a good thing.
He could simply be repeating the same mistake the entire internet did by embracing monolithic social media sites in the first place.