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I've heard arguments for both sides and i think it's more complicated then simply yes or no. what do you guys think?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

The situation today is that AI images are copyrighted (or not) just like any other images.

Given the power of the copyright industry, I doubt that this will be cut back. In the interest of society, it should be, but denying copyright to AI imagery is not the best place to do this.

The original intention of copyright was the same as that of patents: To encourage the creation of new works by making it possible to monetize them through licensing. AI images can be very expensive to make, depending on what goes into them. Without copyright on these images, we might miss out.

ETA: This purpose of copyright is given in the US Constitution (though it is older). US Americans could think about that. IP is property created to serve the public. That's the only justification for property to be found in that document.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The purpose of copyright in the USA, and as far as I know in Brittain, yes.

But please remember that in much of the rest of the world copyright is a reaction to people, creators, getting in trouble over third party usage of their creations.

Leading to the idea that a creator should have the power to stop people from using their works for whatever the creator deems objectionable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not as far as I know. The continental European copyright-equivalent preserves feudal ideas.

Rulers granted monopolies to their cronies to allow them to extract money. These privileges were finally abandoned in the wake of the French Revolution. Ethical considerations aside, this was necessary to allow for industrialization/economic development. Except for "copyright", which is democratized by automatically granting it to everyone, rather than being a special favor. The continental patent system works much like the US one, granting a "mere" 20 year monopoly. Copyright duration is tied to the death of the author, showing its nature as a personal privilege.

Small wonder then that the US copyright industry has come to dominate. Unfortunately, it has leveraged this power for rent-seeking so that much of the harmful, European model was adopted in the US.

You are right, though, that the European model has no regard for public benefit but is quite concerned with the "honor" of the creator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In Denmark the case surrounding "Nøddebo præstegård" caused copyright to be enacted.

I've noticed the theme come up in other countries, amongst these France, but I'll grant that I may have overestimated its importance by overfitting to prior knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Do you have more info on that case, please? It's fine if it's in danish.

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