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I just got up from conversation with a couple of older black men, that I said "well I got to go back to work and start cracking the whip." And it occurred to me then that it was probably a really insensitive stupid thing to say.

Sadly, it hadn't occurred to me until it's already said.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Ok I’ve thought about it a bit and I need to know. What’s wrong with Indian summer?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It's related to the concept of an "Indian giver": the warm weather seems like a gift, but is taken back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’ve never heard of it used with that connotation. Even the most PC people I know use the phrase. Just because it uses the word “Indian” doesn’t automatically make it a pejorative. Some native Americans/first people call themselves Indian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, but it still reeks of colonial insensitivity when a white person says it. Non-indigenous Americans should have replaced that word with Native by now.

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