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I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Hey, I own a corporation in Vietnam. I had no idea I dominated anything.

The economic police verify I comply with the permitted activities on my business license, issued in accordance with the 5-year plan before last. If I'm doing something other than that, I get shut down (that's not a problem though, I plan to continue complying).

My employees certainly have legal protections. Heck, they have government health insurance (which is mandatory for me to pay for, and offers OK protection, and honestly I'm quite happy it's a thing that exists). I have never seen a 'suicide net'. There's no at-will employment : I can't just randomly fire people, I need to provide cause, and it has to be sufficient.

The air quality in HCMC an Ha Noi is not great these days, but other than those two cities, is pretty good overall. I would classify it as 'moderately bad' in those 2 places. I drive through it on motorcycle on one of the worst routes in HCMC (D1 to Nha Be). It's not my favorite thing about life in the city, but it's also clearly not the main cause of lung cancer -- that would still be cigarette smoking by a longshot.

8 years ago, I would have called the air quality here 'good', it's a fairly recent problem.

Anyway, it's not paradise but it's no hellhole either. Ask me anything you would like to know!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

I'm also in Vietnam and just yesterday got brutally dominated by a Vietnamese corporation! The owners of a small food stall, a young couple, made me such an insanely crazy delicious hủ tíu, i almost fell of my chair.

my taste buds? DOMINATED!

my hunger? DOMINATED!

my knowledge of what hủ tíu actually can be? ANNIHILATED!

and now I'm infested with ~~communism~~ capitalism and will probably go back there tonight...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Communism is when small businesses

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nah, domination of corporations is when millions of people owning their own small businesses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Economic liberalization is a defense against the kind of economic warfare that Cuba has been subjected to. Those are really the only two options: play ball with capitalism to some extent, or get strangled by sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism is when not communism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

communism involves the abolition of the government. If you want to know what America does to communist movements undefended by government look at Indonesia in 1965–66

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