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To be clear, I am only talking about people like the average working class Trump voter. The ones who just got caught by misinformation, and just haven't been able to find a way out. Trump and all his mates are terrible people, and should be held accountable.

The average voter is another thing. My attitude is that I got lucky, and found out that Trump and his mates are terrible, instead of getting sucked down a rabbit hole of supporting them. Knowing how fascism works, I don't know if I'd be able to reliably land on the right side if fascism happened in my home country. And if I don't believe I could reliably spot fascism, I'm not comfortable acting like those who support Trump could have.

This isn't a discussion of "just be a good person". I know plenty of amazing, caring people who believe they're doing the right thing.

This whole idea of "I can't say is reliably avoid fascism" is based on this, the school that became fascist for a week. As bad of an experiment that was from that teacher, it was an effective way of teaching how people fall for what should be obviously a bad thing.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 11 hours ago (18 children)

100%

It's not like we can even blame it on the fire hose of misinformation the Trump campaign will never be able to stop themselves from shitting out

Trump has already been president. He failed so hard that he lost by over 7 million votes after just 4 years and 2 impeachments while in office.

Then he was found liable for rape and had to pay millions, then he was convicted on 34 felony counts of fraud, and still he was still on the hook for federal indictments for his attempt to overthrow the government in 2020 in which not only did many participants serve prison time for, some died in the process of it. Many of Trump's own officers were also convicted. Giuliani has been sued into bankruptcy and has been disbarred for what Trump asked him to do.

Yeah. That seems like a good idea to give that guy power again. /s

Trump objectively represents the worst that America has to offer to itself and the world.

He lied his ass off to get his first term, no one learned from that.

I genuinely felt sorry for his victims that first time.

Then he lied his ass off for a 2nd term.

This time, I feel like people deserve what they get this time.

To me, they're just as culpable as Trump this time. Every horrible thing that happens this time have zero hesitation to remind people that they voted for it.

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