this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2023
165 points (98.8% liked)

Risa

6911 readers
56 users here now

Star Trek memes and shitposts

Come on'n get your jamaharon on! There are no real rules—just don't break the weather control network.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
165
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (34 children)

I never understood why the producers put Troi, Seven of Nine and T'Pol into those stupid catsuits in the first place. All of them looked so much more sexy whenever they wore the standard Starfleet uniform.

Thankfully Jellico fixed that at least for Troi.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

In addition to what was said about Berman, there's also Gene Roddenberry. The best way I can explain how his opinion of women evolved over time is that he allowed Marina Sirtis to have that role on TNG even though she didn't sleep with him. The same was not true of Nichelle Nichols in the 1960s.

Sirtis only stayed on the show after season 1 because Denise Crosby left. Not because there was a rift between them, but because she wasn't crossing the "too many women on the show" threshold anymore.

Gates McFadden left TNG for Season 2 because she ran afoul of Maurice Hurley, one of Roddenberry's lap dogs:

I had been in conflict with one of the male writer-producers about certain things I thought were sexist. What I’ve heard is that he said 'Either she goes or I go.' I was shocked that they let me go, because I knew my character was really popular. But he was going to be writing more and more and didn’t want to have to deal with me. What was great was they got rid of him and asked me to come back.

To his credit, Rick Berman asked her back, but I think it was only because Dr. Katherine Pulaski was such an unpopular character and the fans kept writing letters about bringing back Dr. Crusher.

Rick Berman and Gene Roddenberry understood, to varying degrees, that it was important to have women represented as strong, intelligent equals—but did not necessarily personally hold that value.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

JFC, I hope that the next incarnation of Trek has writers and producers that aren't so sexist.

I say this as a dude who's sexual awakening was a combination of Stevie Nicks, Deanna Troi (as I knew her then), and Ryan Reynolds. JUST LET PEOPLE BE WHO THEY ARE. I don't know of any military institution (and let's be honest, that's what Starfleet is) that specifically dresses one officer different from another based on gender, and I can't figure out why the concept would transpose itself into a show based on being progressive. The only example I can think of is the Salvation Army, which has all the dress code qualities of your average preppy high school 30 years ago. But don't get me started on that racket...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Like SNW or DISCO?

load more comments (11 replies)
load more comments (31 replies)