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I just saw a post complaining about the Mozilla layoffs.

I wanted to point out that the vast majority of their income (over 85% in 2022) is from having Google as the default search engine - Ironically, the anti monopoly lawsuit against Google will end this.

Expect things to get worse.

Please don't assume it was just a cruel choice.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Taking funding from your biggest competitor is a weird business choice.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Where should they be "taking" funding instead?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)

ideally donations like lots of other FOSS projects

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Serious question, is there actually a FOSS project out there at the scale of something like Firefox that survives on only donations?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No because people choose diss cause it’s free. I mean they might say other things but then the vast majority do not donate to anything. People are cheap and that’s why we are where we are with all the ads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Feels kind of weird, if thats the case how did Linux come as far as it is today?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Corporate support of development, and I’m not just talking about Redhat and SUSE. Hell, Microsoft is a major contributor to the kernel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

VLC also has a company behind it: https://videolabs.io/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not the same scale but Signal has a rather new approach for a messaging client. Completely free and funded by user donations - at least that's the direction they're trying to head as their initial seed funding starts running low. I've doubled my donations for Signal because I'd like to help prove that its a working model and I encourage everyone who uses it to donate, even if it's just once. I'd love to see Firefox head in that direction where funding goes directly to the browser's development. If I donate to Firefox today it might go to one of their dozen or so other pet projects that are unrelated to the browser. I think their side projects are great and glad they were able to do them while they had the cash, but funding is clearly drying up and they need a whole restructure to keep the browser alive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not the same scale but Signal has a rather new approach for a messaging client. Completely free and funded by user donations - at least that's the direction they're trying to head

You do realise they're trying to become the crypto WeChat? Shit app with horrible management.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You do realise they’re trying to become the crypto WeChat?

Any evidence to support this claim?

Because I'm aware Signal introduced a beta crypto wallet 7 years ago, which was originally only available in select countries, and has had minimal resources allocated to its continued development since. They make zero mention of crypto/payment on their website, and best of all, the crypto wallet isn't even enabled by default.

Shit app with horrible management.

And here you expose your personal emotional trauma by lashing at at the most inconsequential "nothing": the development of a privacy preserving crypto wallet, "feature complete" half a decade ago, and disabled by default in a privacy preserving messenger.

Signal is the best free, open source, E2EE messenger that doesn't leak metadata and has decent UX. Best of all, its completely free to use. Simplex is a good contender, but the UX is still lacking.

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