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so you suddenly have a problem with someone swearing and being hateful?
The idea is to have freedom of expression AND to exercise it intelligently. It isn't an either-or. Or it shouldn't be.
Sure. thats not what OP is saying in their post though
It's implied. Nobody wants assholes.
Most people generally consider those who habitually reach for "fuck you" to be assholes.
Perhaps that's the problem.
Most of the people that I've met who habitually reach for "fuck you", frame it as a question or an argument. Which is arguably worse. And somewhat common. Well, common in the conversations that I like to have.
And yet it seems most people avoid spaces that have the conversations you like to have.
Here, try an experiment. Run a Lemmy server with the rule that you can say what you like within the bounds of law. See how many users come to your space. I'll bet for sure you'll be bigger than even lemmy.world what with all the people who want to habitually reach for "fuck you" that are being so unnecessarily repressed by so-called civil society!
You'll sure show us, won't you!
See, now you are saying "fuck you", and framing it all snarky, "You’ll sure show us, won’t you!". That's actually worse than "fuck you".
I think that the problem might actually be bullshit. There's a ton of "fuck you" going around but it's disguised, so it can't be rationally addressed, but we still feel it, the awfulness, so to escape the awfulness we subconsciously slide into these safe conversations, where conflict and the invisible yet toxic fallout don't exist. But the safe conversations are not very satisfying.
So you're saying that a Lemmy instance that will let anybody casually reach for profane abuse isn't going to succeed?
Wow. What an own goal!
Please do go on. Just go on without me. It's pretty clear you're exactly the kind of person I dropped Twitter over (and the kind of person that had me never even bother with festering pools of dysentery effluent like Reddit). We shan't be talking again.
(P.S. Please do go on a binge of downvoting all my posts. You'll sure show me with that! I won't even slightly hold it up as a badge of honour, I promise!)
You are saying "fuck you" like 3 times there. I can see how you might feel cynical.
just swearing at someone isn’t expressing it intelligently though
Sometimes it is. It depends.
Yes, because I didn't insulted you or said anything offensive towards ANYONE here. You missed the point completely
Then clarify your point. All you have done is post about how you can’t swear at someone or be hateful towards them. And immediately proved the point why it’s not considered acceptable but somehow you’re missing the irony
Thought you didn’t care?
If my experiences have taught me anything, it's that the act of caring is gradient. Sometimes it's for the sake of onlookers that it occurs. I don't strictly encourage insults, but the real enemy so-to-speak is escalation.
I literally said there's a difference in my post between pure nasty accusations or racist and justified anger. You came here with a provocation that's completely senseless.
It’s very interesting how you are instantly wanting nuance and understanding when you are on the receiving end. Do you really not see the hypocrisy here?