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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (23 children)

Because why would a pro-Palestine person vote for the person who has aided the genocide against them and continues to vow further support for the regime responsible?

The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

How is Kamala less likely to escalate it further when she has supported the actual ongoing genocide? What will Trump escalate it to? Double genocide? Either way I'm not voting for Trump so I don't have to agree with his policies. I'm just not going to let the Dems conduct Genocide and scare me into agreeance with them using the threat of Trump.

If you're talking about escalation with Iran, we have already been working with Israel for a "response" to Iran response and she has again supported Israels right to continue their provocations in the name of "defense".

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

Crazy stuff like genocide? Expanding the "war" in Gaza into Lebanon? Provoking Iran with a strike on their soil then planning "retaliation" for their retaliation?

As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Kamala is actively engaged in a genocide. There should be punishments for this. The least of which should be losing your role in any sort of elected office. A vote for Kamala is literally a vote saying that you are okay with genocide as long as it benefits you to do so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

What will Trump escalate it to? Double genocide?

Genuinely, have you read any of the man's comments? He is criticising the Biden administration for being too harsh on Israel. To quote him: "“From the start, Harris has worked to tie Israel’s hand behind its back, demanding an immediate ceasefire, always demanding ceasefire". However bad things currently are, Trump's openly-stated position on that horrific situation is that Israel needs to go in harder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

https://hexbear.net/post/3754069

saw this and figured id point it out to u

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