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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I'd eat at McD's and heck, even Chick-fil-A if they bothered to make something to eat for veg*ns.

Chick-fil-a piloted that cauliflower and that was actually pretty good, but I don't think they kept it.

It might be me, but the "red" options seems to trend toward the Standard American Diet's most harmful versions of things. That very much tracks with what I noticed while growing up in an extremely red area - there seems to be a lot of male toxicity (among females, too) leading people to think that eating "manly" foods (read: foods that cause diabetes, cancer, and heart disease - it has to involve lots of dead flesh and dairy, because that's "healthy", lol) was just what god's people should be doing, because Jesus, the Bible, the flag, guns, and the Constitution, or something. And no, it doesn't make any sense - it's 100% emotionalism of the amgydalites. Allah forbid anyone should eat a vegetable that isn't deep-fried or is a freedom fry or mashed potatoes...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't need toxic masculinity (or Jesus, guns, or American flags - don't have any of those in my life) to know steak and bacon and hamburgers are freaking delicious and I want to eat them a lot. I enjoy lots of other things, too. It's a rare meal I don't have some kind of meat, but I love crab and fish and chicken as much as red meat.

I suspect the correlation is more that if you can't have empathy for your fellow humans, you damn sure can't for animals. And I've never known a vegan who wasn't driven solely by cruelty to animals.

I don't have anything against vegans, and if the food was tastier than bacon and Ribeyes despite the lack of butter and cheese, I might choose it. But here we are. Maybe vat-grown meat will turn out. I'm not thrilled about how animals are treated, but I'm gonna omnivore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And I’ve never known a vegan who wasn’t driven solely by cruelty to animals.

There are a lot of reasons that people go vegan. My ex went vegan for environmental reasons. Some people do it primarily for their own health. Some just plain aren't fans of meat and animal products, through either taste or texture or both.

But you're probably right about the correlation with a lack of empathy. When it's considered "masculine" to not care about hurting others, a lot of folks who only know about the "animal cruelty" aspect probably won't consider any deeper reasons. They and their ilk stick to surface-level appearances, making it not only important that they keep eating meat, but that they make a big deal about it whenever around someone who doesn't eat meat.

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