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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (24 children)
  • If your helmet doesn't have a chin bar (full or modular), you don't care about your chin, teeth, or nose.
  • wrt ATGATT, most of that gear will reduce or avoid injury. A helmet will prevent your death.
  • If you don't wear earplugs - even with a helmet on - enjoy your tinnitus and/or hearing loss. This is from wind noise, not engine noise.
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (21 children)

If your helmet doesn’t have a chin bar (full or modular)

Modular helmets will not protect your face adequately in a crash. Even with a chin bar, the face part tends to open up when you hit the ground. If you value your face, get a good full-face helmet. I have an AGV K1; it's good, fairly lightweight, acceptably ventilated, and usually under $200. You don't need to get a Shoei or an Arai; any full-face helmet sold on e.g. Revzilla is going to be fine, as long as it fits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Even with a chin bar, the face part tends to open up when you hit the ground.

That's just not true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Modular helmets are less safe than full-face helmets, period, full stop. That's absolutely undeniable. Take a look at the SHARP ratings for the very best modular helmet they rated, the Shoei Neotec 3; "93% Percentage of impacts where the face guard remained fully locked". That means that 7% of the time, in controlled tests, the face guard came unlocked. (BTW, A Shoei Neotec was my first helmet, before I got over my claustrophobia.) That is not something you want to worry about in a crash, especially since real world crashes are not carefully controlled.

There's a reason that you're not going to get away with wearing a modular helmet at a track day; they simply are not as safe as a proper full-face helmet.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good to see that you agree that

Even with a chin bar, the face part tends to open up when you hit the ground.

isn't true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Tends to" implies that it's more likely to happen than not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, it means something has a tendency to happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/tend

to be likely to behave in a particular way or have a particular characteristic

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love how venomously pendantic this exchange is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Likely: having a high probability of occurring or being true : very probable

So it's subjective.

7% chance to have your face ripped open, do you consider it to be likely enough to take it into consideration when buying a helmet? If you had a 7% chance to crash every time you ride would you continue riding?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Now you're just being stupid on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's your very best-case scenario, with a $600 helmet, in controlled impacts. Once you start looking at real-world crashes, those numbers start going up significantly, especially because you don't hit the ground once. If you hit the ground at speed, you bounce, and you roll.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Once you start looking at real-world crashes, those numbers start going up significantly,

Source?

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