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European Union countries failed to agree on whether to slap China-made electric vehicles (EVs) with steeper tariffs during a closely watched vote that ended with too many abstentions, forcing the European Commission to overcome the political impasse and push its proposal over the finish line.

The outcome of Friday's vote was not publicly available, although several diplomats told Euronews how each member state positioned itself:

  • 10 were in favour: Bulgaria, Denmark, Estonia, France, Ireland, Italy, Lithuania, Latvia, the Netherlands and Poland. (45.99% of the EU population)
  • 12 abstained: Belgium, the Czech Republic, Greece, Spain, Croatia, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Austria, Portugal, Romania, Sweden and Finland. (31.36%)
  • Five were against: Germany, Hungary, Malta, Slovenia and Slovakia. (22.65%)

The high number of abstentions reflects long-standing qualms about how Europe should stand up to China. Although the political consensus says that Beijing's unfair trade practices merit a forceful, united response, threats of commercial retaliation appear to have dampened the resolve of many capitals as the make-or-break date neared closer.

It was up to the Commission, which has exclusive powers to set the bloc's commercial policy, to break the gridlock and ensure the duties go through.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If their EVs are so good/affordable that it would destroy all domestic EV car competition, couldn't non-chinese car companies just make better/more affordable EVs? Nah, gotta side with automotive corporations and against consumer choice.

This is the kind of garbage move that creates things like the Chicken Tax in the US, which is a big reason Americans drive around tanks now instead of regular sized pick-up trucks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

couldn’t non-chinese car companies just make better/more affordable EVs?

If we assume they actually were that affordable in reality, then the answer would be yes.
The accusation is that the Chinese government is financing and supporting their domestic EV manufacturers in an effort to artificially lower their prices to levels no other manufacturer could ever match in an effort to dominate the market and remove all competition - at which point they could increase their prices drastically and recover the "investment" as there would be no-one else left to compete.

If it's true or not, I can't say, I haven't researched the subject enough. Those votes at least showcase that there is no clear consensus about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's also the factor that China controls the largest "rare earth" mines which are the raw materials for battery manufacturing. Right now, a lot of non-chinese EV companies source their battery materials from China, who will obviously always give their domestic market an anti-competative advantage over any other country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

BYD is also a battery company that makes cars. They can afford to lose a little on the car, when they make money overall.

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