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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (13 children)

It's also the toxic community.

I was called a racist and holocaust denier because I asked someone how they expect YouTube servers to be paid for if you refuse to pay for premium, and don't want to watch ads.

My comments were downvoted like crazy, and the person who called me a racist holocaust denier was upvoted..

Again, all because I asked a question about how servers should be paid for. What the actual fuck? Reddit is insanely toxic, but Lemmy takes the cake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

:note: I know this isn't the point of your comment but I wanted you to be able to have a non-insulting conversation on the topic.

Premium is more than it should be and ads on YouTube arent handled very well i.e. Obnoxious

I watch adless on my phone, but still use the default app to stream to my TV and generally let the ads play through.

23 dollars a month for 2 people on a family plan is just nuts, though. If they had a 2 person option that was like 17-18 then I'd probably get it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I agree that the pricing doesn't make sense unless you can split it, which is what I do.

Premium is $25 in Canada. You can add 5 people to your plan. That makes it $5 per month for each of us.

Personally I don't buy cable or satellite TV, so I get most of my enjoyment from YouTube. So to me $5 per month is nothing, especially if you have something like Spotify which you can cancel and use YouTube Music, which is included in that $5.

If you have no friends and you're the only one footing the bill, I agree that the pricing is a lot. At that point you just have to deal with the annoying ads.

I hate ads as much as anyone, but my question still remains for anyone who demands on blocking all ads and refusing to pay for premium, how do you expect servers and creators to be paid?

I know Google can technically afford it, but that's not how businesses are run. You can't take profits from one department to make up for the losses in another department, and as we know bandwidth is extremely expensive, and Google hosts an unbelievable amount of data, and free, too.

Like I've mentioned in the past, I have a bunch of videos uploaded to YouTube to share with family, and they are all private. Therefore Google is paying to store my videos, while making $0 from them, as they are not public and making any ad revenue.

I also know that Google is bad. Corporations suck. All that jazz. I just don't understand why most of Lemmy users think everything should be free, but when asked about how these things are supposed to get funded, they go silent.

Lemmy itself won't be around long if users refuse to donate to their instance, and refuse to view ads. Even if someone is hosting an instance in their basement, the cost of internet, replacement drives, maintenance, and electricity all add up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

as we know bandwidth is extremely expensive

No. You very obviously don't know how bandwidth is handled for large providers. They don't pay per gb, and instead have peering agreements with other networks. Google generally doesn't have to pay these other networks, as Google has the web applications that the other networks' customers expect to be able to use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry I meant storage, which was apparent by my following sentence "and Google hosts an unbelievable amount of data"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Peering agreements are in no way free no matter what company you work for, what the hell are you on about?

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