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Three individuals targeted National Gallery paintings an hour after Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland were jailed for similar attack in 2022

Climate activists have thrown tomato soup over two Sunflowers paintings by Vincent van Gogh, just an hour after two others were jailed for a similar protest action in 2022.

Three supporters of Just Stop Oil walked into the National Gallery in London, where an exhibition of Van Gogh’s collected works is on display, at 2.30pm on Friday afternoon, and threw Heinz soup over Sunflowers 1889 and Sunflowers 1888.

The latter was the same work targeted by Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland in 2022. That pair are now among 25 supporters of Just Stop Oil in jail for climate protests.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (135 children)

So if throwing paint at a entierly replaceable cover for a dusty old painting is too far gone to be acceptable, what action can we take to stop oil production? Like. It needs to stop. To continue producing fossil fuels is a death cult. It needs to stop, like, a decade ago. I ask genuinely, how is this too far, and what is an acceptable response to an existential threat?

edit: On the off chance someone reads this so long after the post, I just want to point out that nobody actually engaged with my question here.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (86 children)

So if throwing paint at a entierly replaceable cover for a dusty old painting is too far gone to be acceptable, what action can we take to stop oil production?

God, I wish someone could actually trace the train of events that would lead to reduced oil production from this other than some bizarre notion that throwing soup at a priceless artifact of human heritage will Energize The Masses(tm) or suddenly convince people who think climate change is a hoax or overblown that it's actually a serious problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can I request an article or at least a transcription?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

YouTube provides transcripts. It's in the discription on the website

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

YouTube provides transcripts.

Wow. I am behind the times. I'll look through it then.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also the section "jso critics" and "does it work"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"No art on a dead planet" is a braindead justification and does not in any way outline how vandalism of art is supposed to translate into climate activism, while the four criteria outlined for activism are valid but in no way provide a special justification for vandalism of cultural artifacts, which has a significantly greater backlash from the exact kind of educated people most likely to get involved in climate activism, and very little disruptive potential.

"I understand that we're pissing people off but there's no other way to get attention" and "Negative attention is good attention, because maybe it will cause people to become positively engaged with the cause" are not particularly compelling rebuttals in the critics section.

"JSO was central in setting the 2024 Labour agenda" is utterly deluded, while all the cited actions by their sister organizations in Europe are much more traditional instances of civil disobedience that have long-proven track records and a clear and logical progression of action-to-influence.

This really reinforces my view that JSO are terribly naive and have no real idea on how their actions will seriously lead to mass change of opinions on climate change.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

"No art on a dead planet" is a braindead justification and does not in any way outline how vandalism of art is supposed to translate into climate activism

If damaged art hurts your feelings get mad at the government killing all art on the planet and not the activists partially damaging some art.

"I understand that we're pissing people off but there's no other way to get attention" ... not particularly compelling rebuttals in the critics section

Why not? How else should they be getting attention?

"JSO was central in setting the 2024 Labour agenda" is utterly deluded,

I won't disagree

This really reinforces my view that JSO are terribly naive and have no real idea on how their actions will seriously lead to mass change of opinions on climate change.

Yeah I don't get the vibe from you that you'd change your view

Partially related but do you have any evidence that jso tactics has a "greater backlash from the exact kind of educated people most likely to get involved in climate activism" or is that kinda vibes based

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