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As many Republicans continue to buck their party’s nominee and nominate Vice President Harris for the White House, calls are mounting for former President George W. Bush to denounce former President Trump.

The Harris campaign has touted that more than 200 Republicans have endorsed the vice president, including former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and many former Trump insiders. It also includes former vice president to Bush, Dick Cheney.

He noted that Bush is “apparently above such petty concerns,” pointing to recent reports that said he is not endorsing anyone in the race for the White House. Multiple outlets reported that Bush’s office released a statement that said: “President Bush retired from presidential politics years ago.”

But it doesn’t work that way. When your country calls, you can’t just roll it over to voicemail because you don’t want to deal with it, especially when you are an elder statesman like an ex-president. Patriotism is for life,” Truax wrote, noting that former President Jimmy Carter said he hopes he can live to cast his vote for Harris.


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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Can the Democratic Party stop openly fantasizing that it is the Republican party? Please?

Edit: don't be mad at me y'all. You DVn MFs are gonna pretend you knew this was a bad sign later on when it turns out I'm right so why not skip ahead to that part now?

You can be ahead of the curve for once

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not what's happening here.

All of this is the Republican party dissolving. The "old guard" GOP is splitting from the MAGA-fascists, explicitly and publicly, not just in whispers behind closed doors or off the record and anonymously.

Imagine if the Republican party had split like this two years ago, actually forming up and running a "third party" candidate (I put that in quotes, because in this hypothetical, there would definitely be a fight about whether Trump or the postulated "old guard" candidate would be the "third party" one) in addition to Trump and (at the time) Biden. Splitting the vote like that would have the same effect, putting a Democrat back into the office of President, unless the combination would end up with no candidate reaching 270 electoral votes.

The same thing is essentially happening now, except there's no third party. Instead of fielding their own candidate, that old guard is throwing in behind Harris. The message being sent is "That's how bad we think Trump is, so bad that we're endorsing the Democrat." It's permission for life-long Republicans - who have been well-taught to stay in line behind R candidates - to reject fascism.

Of course the Democratic party is going to support and amplify the GOP falling to pieces, and rejecting fascism is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That’s not what’s happening here.

I don't see why we can't both be right. The R's are fracturing and the Democratic party is moving rightward as it absorbs the moderate Rs.

Of course the Democratic party is going to support and amplify the GOP falling to pieces.

Yes, they do. My larger point (mentioned in a separate comment) is, after the dust of the election settles, which voters will the Democratic party cater to? They aren't just gonna let those modeRate voters sit and spin, right? Leftwing Democrats are democrats too and they've been hoping for a chance to pull the party left. Things important to leftists are kinda getting ignored this campaign in favor of hard right Dems, and leftists of course must vote for kamala and hope to use their voices, after getting her elected, to try n move the party left.

For leftists, watching the DNCs embrace voters to the right of the entire Democratic party is like watching that dream die in real time.

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