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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

No. If 5% of my voting base sits out over a single issue, I'm going to lose my interest in trying to triangulate their support and move in another direction to identify a more persuadable bloc of voters. That goes more if the abandonment is repetitive, and if the issues constantly change, or if the issue is something I can't bend on for electoral reasons.

If one bloc of voters is easier to please than another, then I'm moving in their direction, even if it's rightward. Unfortunately it's winner-take-all, and you're either in power or you're not. There are no half-wins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Not funding and supplying a genocide seems to be a pretty clear and easy issue to change especially when 60%+ of democrats are in favor of it. We’re already violating our own laws by continuing to do so.

The democrats are already moving to the right even with the left continuing to vote for them. They think they can win over some centrists republicans (even though they can’t in a meaningful number) by adopting right wing policies while not losing the left because at the moment they know votes are guaranteed because “republicans worse”.

Having voters in areas that effectively don’t matter this cycle show there displeasure in the genocide we’re enabling is the least we can do to counter it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They think they can win over some centrists republicans (even though they can’t in a meaningful number) by adopting right wing policies while not losing the left because at the moment they know votes are guaranteed because “republicans worse”.

I don't think they think that. I think we've swallowed that lie hook, line and sinker for 40 years and they will keep throwing the same bait as long as we keep biting while they keep moving right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I agree, but that’s was a whole other can of worms I wasn’t trying to get into at the moment since I’ve got a busy and long work day that’s still not over unfortunately lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I hear you. Thanks for the reply.

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