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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (66 children)

This is basic felony murder shit. Any attorney worth their salt should have been telling him to take the plea deal, because felony murder is a Big Fucking Deal. To be more exact, 46 of 50 states have some version of a felony murder statute, and in 24 of them--just under half--felony murder is a capital crime, and can potentially receive the death penalty.

A good attorney would be communicating this clearly to their client, and make sure that the client understood that going to trial would likely mean decades in prison, and possibly a death penalty; the odds of beating the charge, if you participated in the underlying crime, are very, very poor.

Here's the basic deal: when a deal occurs during the course of committing certain felonies, any major participant in the commission of that crime are guilty of causing that death. If you're the getaway driver in a bank robbery, and all of the robbers get killed by security guards, you get charged with murder for their deaths, even though it was legal for the security guards to use lethal force against them. Smith was one of the participants in the burglary, and it was during the commission of the burglary that Washington attacked a police officer and was killed. Because Smith was an active participant in that burglary, he's guilty of that death, even though Washington was justifiably killed by a cop.

And, BTW, this isn't bootlicking bullshit. It didn't need to be a cop that killed Washington for a felony murder charge to apply to Smith. If Washington had attacked the homeowner, and the homeowner had killled Washington, it would have been the same felony murder charge for Smith.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (52 children)

Garbage in garbage out.

If you accept US disgusting legal system as fair or 'normal' you can justify this outcome. Its obviously not.

Charging a person with felony murder when no murder was commited is not justice no more than Saudi Arabia executing people for being gay.

I 'll also give you some personal advice, no non-bootlicker preemptively disclaims being a bootlicker.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I 'll also give you some personal advice, no non-bootlicker preemptively disclaims being a bootlicker.

People here seem to think that anything that could even remotely be taking as being favorable towards cops is bootlicking. It's not bootlicking bullshit because the person that kills the burglar is not relevant to the charges. Moreover, it's not relevant whom Washington attacked; if it had been the homeowner that had been attacked by, and shot and killed Washington, the charges would have been identical.

I'm not in favor of the way most cops conduct themselves, but I'm even less in favor of being attacked by someone that takes umbrage with not being allowed to burglarize my residence.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am not complaining about the cops' behavior here. While the cops are the boot a bootlicker shows their submission to the wearer of the boots; the US "justice" system in this case, not just the police.

People here seem to think that anything that could even remotely be taking as being favorable towards cops is bootlicking. It's not bootlicking bullshit because the person that kills the burglar is not relevant to the charges. Moreover, it's not relevant whom Washington attacked; if it had been the homeowner that had been attacked by, and shot and killed Washington, the charges would have been identical.

I am not arguing that US law is not being applied correctly, I am arguing it is immoral as unjust. You accepting US law on this issue as just is precisely why you are a bootlicker.

I'm not in favor of the way most cops conduct themselves, but I'm even less in favor of being attacked by someone that takes umbrage with not being allowed to burglarize my residence

I don't give a shit about your residence in that shithole of a country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Life is much better when you learn how to live without bitterness and hate. There are only so many breaths we take, why waste them on stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's OK I can handle life fine. Do you actually have an argument to justify your support felony murder?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dunno you sound pretty tightly wound up to me. You don't even live there, why are you so angry?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's incomprehensible to you that someone could be revolted by injustice that does not affect them?

I do think it's you that's wound uo, probably cause I mocked the US. Cry me a river.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're seeing someone being human to you and perceive it as anger or sadness.

I'm neither, just being polite to a stranger that is obviously hurting for some reason.

Humanity is getting slowly better all the time. It's too slow sometimes, but things are moving in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

But reverse trolls are.

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