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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (105 children)

Look, whatever you think of Jill Stein, she can only be a threat to democrats because they are vulnerable to arguments from the left. If you don't want to be vulnerable from the left, adopt some of their popular ideas. Putin isn't tricking Americans into being anti genocide, or into wanting universal health care.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Kamala and Walz are more left-leaning than any dem ticket in ages. If the purpose of the Green party is to move the democrats left, then they should drop out to reward them for moving left.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Why would they stop now in that case? "More left-leaning than any dem ticket in ages" is not a very high bar. Shit, it's so low, you can't even slip "opposes genocide" under it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean I have to agree that it's disgusting and pathetic that almost every western mainstream political party is complicit and the rest are silent at best.

But, if you can stand me saying it, I think we actually have a chance to change the party. A Dem ticket like this is a once in lifetime event. If they lose I would be surprised if I ever see one this good again in my lifetime. If they get in, and if they get in with a strong majority, I can see it fundamentally changing the party. Every dem who blames the left for losing elections will turn to dust instantaneously ( don't fact check me on this ).

I don't really know what effect it'll have because I'm just some guy. But I think this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I think it could fundamentally change the DNC. It could disempower the right of the party and bring leftist ideas into the political mainstream. It won't be perfect, but it could be something. It could be huge.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I lost that kind of optimism years ago.

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