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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Is this because FIDO2 is flawed, the yubikey hardware design is flawed or both?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It’s due to a cryptographic library implementation in a controller used in the yubikey. It’s a third party controller, and this isn’t exclusive to yubikeys either, a shitload of other stuff uses the same controller and is likely vulnerable to the same attack.

Also, the attack requires around $10k worth of equipment and physical access to the yubikey, so while a valid attack vector, it’s also not something to get into a panic about.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And this is why Duress passwords exist

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Can i create such a thing for qubes os? Would be cool the have decryption screen look like windows login and if duress password entered it boots to a live windows image instead and obviously sends out relevent alerts etc. I suppose u would also want a second duress password that just shreds everything as well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, at least for the Yubi implementation, fixable in software, firmware >= 5.7 not vulnerable. Also not upgradeable, so replace keys if you're worried about nation-state attacks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

for reference 5.7 began shipping with keys May of this year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I went into the article thinking I’d need to replace my keys, and after reading decided I’m a very unlikely target for this attack. My threat model doesn’t include nation states, so I’m gonna keep using my yubikeys for the foreseeable future.

I have been thinking about new hardware key(s) that can handle more than 20 passkeys, but that’s not a high priority for me right now.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely not something a regular user should panic over. But it's a huge deal since a lot of high security, sensitive targets also rely on the same library.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Definitely. Not to be ignored, but for lots of yubikey users, also not something to be overly worried about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty concerning if my backup key can just be cloned that easily. It means now I need to invest in a much better safe, which I guess was probably always a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

if my backup key can just be cloned that easily

Do you consider $10,000 of equipment plus breaking your safe and extracting your pin to be easy? Who did you get on the wrong side of!?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't you just use the yubikey like normal if you have physical access to it instead of copying it ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

In fact reading through the article it sounds like they would need to use it to extract the secret. I guess the end goal for this would be to maintain surreptitious access to something after returning the key to the target, either to build a criminal case or for espionage purposes.

Given that the vulnerability may also apply to other secure access card/devices I suppose it could also be used if a nation-state wanted to use an impostor to access secure facilities.

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