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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It isn't just the wording that's problematic, it's the way Marx was dismissive towards the existing methods of collectivism and horizontal organizing. Yes, subsistence farming is a "primitive" mode of production, but the way peasants and indigenous people organized and collectivized resources is not irrelevant to modern industrial modes of production. Marx dismissed the way peasants and indigenous people collectivized resources as "primitive" and argued in favor of centralized power structures. I believe this to be a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As I said, no such organizing has successfully fended off capitalism for more than a few months, not in the last 150 years. It could work, under some sort of ideal conditions, but not under the material conditions of contemporary history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It baffles me that marxists will dismiss anarchist ideas using the exact same talking points that liberals use to dismiss communism.

Communism also failed to fend off capitalism - and before you say b-but actually the USSR lasted a really long time, ask yourself if the USSR at any point actually lived up to the ideals of the revolution. We should be focusing on finding new solutions that work, and being dismissive of anarchist ideas doesn't help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Communism also failed to fend off capitalism - and before you say b-but actually the USSR lasted a really long time,

The USSR being couped didn't stop it from sponsoring revolutionary movements around the globe until the coup. The US still hasn't defeated places like Cuba. In this sense the project still lives on.

ask yourself if the USSR at any point actually lived up to the ideals of the revolution.

Yes, in many ways. In some ways it did not.

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