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not to mention they are half as criminally violent compared to US Citizens....about 45% less violent if they are undocumented
It has always been about racism. not crime. not drugs.
The crime stats are heavily skewed as undocumented persons are significantly less likely to involve the police.
Large groups of people are pretty predictable. The actual crime rates are probably much closer to the equivalent crime rates of the cities and neighborhoods that align to with their own economic status i.e class and poverty are the best predictors of crime rates, not citizenship, or lack thereof.
This isn't an argument for, or against, any immigration policy. It's an argument against using flawed statistics.
Wouldn't that argument count more towards the victim of a crime than the perpetrator?
Why would someone not involve police when the offender is an undocumented immigrant?
Keep in mind, the statistic only includes felonies.
You're assuming that undocumented persons are evenly dispersed amongst the country, and in every community, when they're not.
While you'll find undocumented persons all over the country, like any other group, there are areas of heavy concentration that account for the majority of population. And in those areas, they tend to form communities around each other.
So if the vast majority of them live within communities that comprise heavily of other undocumented migrants, those crimes that are between two and undocumented persons, are significantly less likely to be brought attention of American law enforcement.
I'm not saying never, but that is a common enough occurrence to skew those stats and make them disingenuous at best.
Again, nothing new to what I'm saying here...
You are just... so terrible at understanding statistics it's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
Really?
So you disagree with my broad strokes explainer on undocumented population distribution?
Or do you disagree with my assertion that most perpetrators of crime victimize people in their same community?
When your entire premise is wrong you don't get to claim minor victories. They do not sum up to you being correct if you still get the wrong answer with the correct variables. You've shown your work but the answer is still wrong. Do better.
Whew! For a split second you had me wondering whether or not you were completely full of shit, thanks for clearing that up.
So... You don't disagree that the majority of the undocumented migrant population reside within communities that have large numbers of other undocumented persons.
And you don't disagree that most perpetrators of crime victimize people within their same communities...
You just believe that undocumented persons report crimes to law enforcement at the same rates as legal residents and citizens...?
I take it you also believe the reported rates of rapes and sexual assaults to be accurate as well?
Well, if you do, let me be the first to tell you that rapes and sexual assaults are also underreported at statistically significant rates.