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not to mention they are half as criminally violent compared to US Citizens....about 45% less violent if they are undocumented
It has always been about racism. not crime. not drugs.
The crime stats are heavily skewed as undocumented persons are significantly less likely to involve the police.
Large groups of people are pretty predictable. The actual crime rates are probably much closer to the equivalent crime rates of the cities and neighborhoods that align to with their own economic status i.e class and poverty are the best predictors of crime rates, not citizenship, or lack thereof.
This isn't an argument for, or against, any immigration policy. It's an argument against using flawed statistics.
Do you say the same thing when stats are used to demonize immigrants? You apply the same level of skepticism?
Of course.... Why wouldn't I?
Wait...Do you believe spreading bad information, or fake news, is justified if it's for something you believe in?
And it's not skepticism, it's a known flaw in that bogus stat. It's not like I'm breaking news here.
I'm sure the documented immigrant data is more complete. So my point still stands
No it doesn't
lol sounds like the responses we get from the Trump campaign.
"naw fuck facts"
American Citizens are more criminally violent than immigrants of any kind.
Stop looking for scapegoats
edit: keep downvoting me instead of proving me wrong, you are just strengthening my argument
It's just as detailed of a reply as I felt your comment was worth.
Your point was not suddenly made valid by some unrelated thing you threw in.
That is an interesting way of saying you don't have a valid retort.
What do you mean "threw in"? 😂
Look at the chart that I originally commented... I didn't go back and change the image file to make myself right 😆
Are you one of those violent Americans? Maybe we should deport you back to where your ancestors came from
Yawn
That was quick.
You managed to jump from accusing me of being anti-immigrant, to you yourself demanding a final solution, all in the same comment thread.
yeah if you actually think I believe that you are more dense than I previously thought. are you unable to think objectively?
Sometimes people say things they dont mean to make a point. are you fucking 12?
Apparently I am, but maybe you can help!
Please, help educate me on when is it appropriate to advocate for genocide. When is calling for genocide just a rhetorical device, and when is like actually "bad"?
If I'm calling for genocide simply as a rhetorical device, can I also call the other people vermin as well? You know, for enhanced rhetorical value.
When did I advocate for genocide? You are putting a lot of words in my mouth and quickly building up a straw man for yourself to argue with.
Your type really need to go study epistemology and basic logic. Almost every word out of your mouth is filled with logical fallacies.
I want you deported to the nation of your ancestors. I am a nonviolent person who owns firearms purely for defense
So you just threatened to eradicate me and my "kind", whoever that is. I see.
Don't put words in my mouth. I am non-violent, I have never even laid my hands on another human in my 35 years of life. I own firearms for defense only.
I want to have you deported to the nation of your ancestors
That certainly sounds like a threat.
oh my god go back to reddit if you want to play the victim card. find your echo chamber and safe space You still can't argue the points, but instead come at me personally.
Why are Republicans so obsessed about immigrant crime when they commit less than us??? We would literally dilute the violence per-capita by increasing immigration.
You heard talking points that jive with your existing feelings about hispanic people and now you have blinders on. Why are people able to live like that? how do you lie to yourself?
When did I come at you personally?
The only thing I've said is that the one comment you made didn't make your previous argument suddenly valid. And implied that your vitriol was boring.
The rest of the things you seem to have assumed about me - making personal attacks, etc - appear to be pretty wild assumptions.