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In an op-ed for France's Le Monde, Oscar-winning director Michel Hazanavicius expresses fear over the dramatic change in the way the world perceives Jewish people, as if being Jewish had become something really murky, vaguely suspect, possibly detestable.'

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I have nothing angaint anyone, or any group, just because of their religion, ancestry, government, etc.

However, when things like this pop up, it becomes increasing difficult to separate what the gov does and the citizens that support it. Especially with numbers like these:

The poll indicates that an overwhelming majority of Israelis (69%) believe it was correct to carry out the recent assassinations in Beirut and Tehran

The Maariv poll also reveals that most Israelis (57%) fear the disintegration of the social fabric in Israel following the arrest of reserve soldiers at the Sde Teiman base and, conversely, the break-ins to IDF bases by right-wing activists and Knesset members. ( the soldiers that raped/tortured all those people)

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-813084

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The point this guy is trying to make is that people are conflating Israel, Judaism, and Zionism in ways that don't always make sense

Like, the polls you're quoting are sentiments of Israelis, so this guy (and the vast majority of Jewish people in the world) are not included in those polls.

Even within Israel, that's, what, 3-4 million people that disagree with that sentiment? And Israelis are only ~73% Jewish anyway?

On top of that, tons of zionists arent even Jewish, they are even likely to be antisemitic tbh.

So.. what you said sounds a lot like "I don't have anything against one particular group, but the sentiment of the citizens of this one country makes me second guess the perspective of a person in a totally different country just because they share one dimension of identity"... In essence, it sounds a lot like prejudice

(free palestine, in case that isn't obvious)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mentioned specifically citizens of Israel.

I specifically stated it becomes hard to separate the citizens that support it.

I did not say I have any opinion on the people. (Same way I do not hate Russian people.)

But, let's say I was a Jew in Germany in 1944... Would I be prejudice for believing the Nazis and millions of citizens wanted me dead?

It's not prejudice, it's reality, within the state.

But, yes, free Palestine. Free Ukraine. Free Tibet, Taiwan. Free Myanmar. Free etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You posted the numbers. It's not 1% or something small that people might argue is trivial. One trap of political reporting is that people conflate a country name with it's military or its current leadership or its people. That inevitably leads to extrapolation and unwarranted conclusions.

Of course this is not unique to Israel. It happens all the time. And it's not OK, but many people are lazy and others are manipulative, so the best we can do is be aware of the tendency to equivocate.

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