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IDK. Gentoo is considered stable, but fedora "leaning unstable"?
Anyway what is that whole un/stable supposed to mean anyway? All non-rolling distros try to be stable. What can break are third party repos and stuff you compiled yourself. With fedora that can "break" twice a year. With a rolling distro that can "break" on every updates
Honestly, I'm too unfamiliar with Gentoo to make a proper assessment on this. Though, even my (simple) understanding allows me to understand it as follows:
Which, I believe is what's alluded to here: "The update philosophy of a distro is generally not related to its release cadence, as you can have rolling release distros that are relatively stable (for example, Gentoo) and point release distros that are relatively bleeding edge (for example, Fedora)."
Is there any reason why you would deem Gentoo as not stable? If so, what?
For the sake of completeness, proper quotation would have been "leans bleeding"
I'll give you that the article is definitely not exhaustive and/or properly clarified. Perhaps for the sake of brevity, idk. Hence, I believe that this confusion is justified. However, again, I think the raised point is justifiable based on the following:
May I ask why you think Fedora does not lean towards unstable?
I agree it causes more confusion/conflation that it has any right to.
It depends on the used definition of "stable" 😅.
Sorry, I can't agree with you on this. Even if this is said in the context of non-rolling distros, my experiences with Fedora suggest otherwise. Granted, Fedora is sometimes referred to as semi-rolling release distro. So, perhaps it (and direct derivatives) are the exception.
Agreed (with earlier mentioned caveat*).
Agreed.
phew long answer. I wouldn't call Gentoo unstable. I was rather interested in why it's supposedly more stable then Fedora.
I just wrote from my limited experience. I never had something break on Fedora. I just updated a system from 35 to 41. The stuff that broke was something I compiled against old dependencies. (That's why I didn't update so long)
My Gentoo experience is >15y old. I had numerous incompatibilities, because I used the tools the system gave me. But sure that's on me if I cutomize my system with USE flags. And it's probably better now.
@Mike1576218 @bsergay
I wanna try Gentoo-based Redcore on one of my other machines =^_^=
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redcore
https://redcorelinux.org/
I suppose it's cool. MocaccionoOS is where my interests lie within the Gentoo derivatives. Granted, I'm a sucker for 'immutable' distros.
@bsergay nice, never heard of that distro
Yeah, it's pretty niche. Redcore Linux is definitely (relatively speaking) more mainstream.