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Like surely you must have acquired a clue by now. (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

"think trans people are grooming kids"

Thats just an insult, not an actual belief.

"I think the election was rigged"

How is this not an opinion? Do you think the elections in russia are unquestionably fair?

"I think women shouldn't have total control over their bodies"

Nobody has total control, that was never up for debate, it's just a question of where you draw the line. You can't consume heroin, for example. If you're holding a baby in your arms, you dont have the "total freedom" to drop it. Similarly, it's a valid ethical debate if and when an embrio is concidered another living being. You might say "control over their body", someone else might say "it's not their body, it's that of another human".

Your entire comment assumes that "the others" are intolerant and you are the tolerant saint. The truth is, what is tolerant depends on your morals and is thus subjective. Tolerating other's opinions is a fundemental requirement for a democracy, with the exception of opinions that are anti-democratic. Not tolerating a whole political view, however, has nothing to do with that. That would just means being an intolerant asshole and claiming that one's own political beliefs are the only ones that are correct.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Trans are grooming: It is an insult and LITERALLY what the US conservatives are running on. You need to understand this.

Elections: We aren't talking about Russian elections.

Abortions: Read "A defence of abortion" by Judith Jarvis and get back to me. But before you do, stop acting like "you don't have the right to drop a baby onto the floor!" is remotely in the ballpark of an apt comparison. Fuck off with that nonsense too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We aren't talking about Russian elections

Yeah but you said that doubting the validity of elections is not an opinion. We weren't talking about any country's elections specifically.

stop acting like "you don't have the right to drop a baby onto the floor!" is remotely in the ballpark of an apt comparison

I never claimed it to be but dont you realize that it refutes your claim that one should have "total" control over one's body? This showd that its a matter of where you draw the line. Its not black and white. Can you kill a baby after it was born? Two minutes before? A month before? 6 months before?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This entire thread is clearly about us politics. Furthermore, the idea that you can use THE ENTIRE GLOBE to cherry pick any scenario is absurd and you know it. Stop trying to play that copout game and own the fact that we are discussing American politics.

I never claimed it to be but dont you...

"I never said it was but it totally was!" So no to that as well. Argue in good faith or fuck off.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

"I never said it was but it totally was!" So no to that as well.

To make sure you can't interpret this the wrong way:

  • I did not claim that having the right to drop a baby was comparable to having the right to abort
  • However, it is completely irrelevant how comparable they are because this nontheless clearly shows that your absolute claim of "total choice" is false.

To sum it up for you:

  • The dropping example refutes your claim about total control
  • You said it isn't comparable
  • I agreed and pointed out that I never claimed it to be. However, it still refutes your fucking claim. The whole point was for it to be non-controversial (I hope we agree dropping a baby is not your right) so we can both agree that you do not have total control, which you had previously implied.