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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Killings by law enforcement in Canada

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Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

All this proves is that my children get a better education and better protection from their mother than government.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Better protection for sure. Maybe you're really good at home schooling, but my aunt fucked my cousins up really bad lmao. But then again they didn't die in a shooting so maybe it's a win anyway.

Quick edit that I don't know your situation and your kids are probably totally fine. I was more bashing my aunt and shitty parents. Not the ones that do a good job. Sorry to seem so critical

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

2 of my half-sisters were homeschooled for religious reasons. Both ended up failing out of college because they didn't even have a rudimentary understanding of science, math, or history.

On the other hand, I know a guy who was homeschooled and, aside from us teasing him a bit about which sister he'd take to prom, he's perfectly normal and intelligent and had no problem making it as a radiology tech.

Everyone likes to poo-poo regulations as government overreach (and sometimes, yes, it is), but typically, they're just there to protect those who can't protect themselves (like kids who deserve a good education)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah for sure. Like I wasn't trying to bash the individual I commented under. When it's working it's working. Only when it doesn't it's pretty bad. But then again that is a pretty irrelevant point for me to make since many kids make it through public school and are dumb as bricks. I guess it all just depends

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I didn't take it as you trying to bash, just expanding the convo a bit. I think the outcomes are very dependent on why the decision to homeschool was made and how prepared the parents are to actually educate their children. If you're doing it because you don't feel public schools are safe enough, I could get on board with that...my kids are in public school, and it's scary as shit sometimes. Our 7th grader had to deal with multiple lockdowns last year, and we live in a pretty safe area. If you're homeschooling because you don't want your kid's mind "poisoned" by basic science like geology or biology, or don't want them exposed to different races or religions, you're probably gonna end up with a young adult who isn't prepared to exist on their own in the world when the time comes and that transition into adulthood is going to even harder than it already is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Interestingly, my wife and I found that the Montessori and eclectic styles of education are the best choice for homeschooling. We mix the two styles. We allow our children to pick which topics (usually 2 per day) they'd like to learn and go from there. The following day they will choose another two topics so on and so forth. This is the Montessori form of education. Whereas eclectic style, that includes things like children's museums, gardening, farms, wilderness, zoos, arts & crafts and as of recent learning how to type and now my daughter who has heard piano is interested in learning the piano.

This gives a better idea as to what interests our children have so that we can help guide them with the least amount of friction. All in all, we want our children to have the best possible education and allow them to make their own decisions so that they're content in learning and growing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hey it's all good. Thankfully in my area there's a lot of activities for children to learn outside the home. Seems to be aimed toward children who are homeschooled, so my kids get to interact with other children. My wife and I get to make friends with people from our town and setup activities together. We've learned before we decided to get pregnant that the first 4 years of a child's life is crucial, especially when it comes to social interactions with their peers. So we put an action plan together to make sure we cover all the bases.

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