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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (31 children)

Outcompeting by having a nation subsidize the cost. Until local manufacturers go out of business because they can't compete. Then China owns the entire industry she jacks to the price.

It's like no one has been paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Ah, I see. So it's cool when we do it (fossil fuel and ag subsidies, the auto industry bailout in 2008, etc.) but not when they do it.

Got it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (8 children)

You're introducing an argument as a way to undermine the viewpoint that's opposite to yours.

No one said it's fine "when we do it". That's not the point being discussed.

The other bigger issue here is that these new cars are coming from a region that has a horrendous track record for safety and quality. EVs when done right are still a considerable risk with battery fires, but the ones manufactured in China are much worse for quality and safety. In the next few years, as these cars flood markets around the world, it will be a massive issue.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They seem safe enough to pass the EU’s safety standards, which are much higher than the US. Also this blanket “quality issues” argument without specific evidence is terrible. If we’re going off of quality in recent history, American manufacturing is down the toilet in terms of quality - just look at Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

People wrongly assume all Chinese manufacturing is aliexpress fodder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry but 1 star out of 5 on the European NCAP is terrible ! This car is a death trap !

I would never set a foot in a Chinese ....

Oh wait ! I was looking at the Jeep wrangler, never mind.

The BYD has a 5 star rating as well as an the other chinese cars I checked.

Euro NCAP - Jeep Wrangler

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