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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (29 children)

Hey, when people talk about the bad shit we do, it makes them think we do bad shit!

Obviously, the solution is to complain when they talk about the bad shit we do.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (28 children)

Yeah, bad shit like lifting millions out of abject poverty, passing the hump on emissions, producing 80 percent of the world's solar, focusing on mutual economic benefit instead of imperialism like the NATO bloc, etc etc

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

lifting millions out of abject poverty

OK, so China has looked out for its own interests and created an economic advantage for a fraction of its own population.

passing the hump on emissions

And yet, still the largest source of methane emission.

producing 80 percent of the world's solar

As a product they can sell. Let's not pretend like this has some altruistic motivation.

focusing on mutual economic benefit

In fact, the BRI is trapping numerous countries in unsustainable levels of debt. At the same time, bilateral trade, though often increasing after the conclusion of a deal, remains one-sided, where China extracts resources for exports but imports cheap finished goods of questionable quality that undermine local manufacturers. reference

India has repeatedly said it will not join BRI because it does not offer a level playing ground to the country’s businesses. reference

Sorry, which part of what you wrote is relevant to the bad shit that China has done?

instead of imperialism like the NATO bloc, etc etc

Let's stay on topic. If you want to discuss NATO, we can do that after.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

OK, so China has looked out for its own interests and created an economic advantage for a fraction of its own population.

If lifting hundreds of millions of your poorest into the middle class is just naked self interest, why are Western countries so unwilling to do it? Are they stupid?

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