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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Cheaper than highways. The reason why long haul trucking exists is because the construction of highways is highly subsidized. Even then, it's often more cost effective to use rail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

railways are a lot more expensive than roadways per km

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (15 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know that asking you to Google things is maybe a lot, but isn't the answer pretty obvious if you think about it for more than five seconds?

Roads are made out of what would otherwise be a waste product from refining oil, mixed with dirt. If you just leave it alone, it will basically just sit there.

Rails are made out of steel, which is both expensive and rusts. Tolerances have to be tight. And if you fuck about with maintenance in rail, you get a train derailment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk why you got down voted. It makes sense to me!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because people don't want facts and accurate information they want their team to win.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, it's because your answer is overly simplistic. We don't build one lane roads, we tend to build 3 or 4 in each direction, at least in cities.

Also, leave a road alone, it does not just sit there. In cold climates you get frost heaves, in hot climates asphalt is never truly "solid" so it gets ruts... water causes damage, plants grow through it...

Add in some of the other responses and we have a more complete picture. I'm not convinced. At best it might be a wash.

*edit* just realized you're not the same person, sorry. My point still stands though.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

They build roads going every direction because people and stuff needs to go every direction, people still need to go to those places if you replace them with trains.

Also the effort to fix and replace train lines is far more than fixing roads, I think a lot of Americans haven't really used trains much so they don't comprehend how complex it is, when you've had trains cancelled for a thousand dumb reasons like the wrong kind of leaves on the track then trains don't feel as reliable - and when the track is blocked for repair they can't go round so it's bus replacement service so if you scrap roads then you need redundancy so you end up with masses of tracks everywhere.

I love trains but people need to learn how they actually work and the costs involved so we can be reasonable in planning and build the most useful solution for each situation - just saying trains for everything doesn't make sense.

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