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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I got into an argument with a guy on Reddit because he kept insisting that Taiwan was a sovereign nation and I kept telling him that Taiwan does not view Taiwan as a sovereign nation. At one point he asked me if we sold weapons to China and when I said definitionally yes he lost his shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Taiwan does not view itself as a soverign nation, but for most practical purposes it is one. Also, I don't think "definitionally" is a word.

Edit: Apparently "definitionally" is a word. I stand corrected.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taiwan does not view itself as a soverign nation, but for most practical purposes it is one.

Being a sovereign nation is when you don't have a seat in the UN and most sovereign nations refuse to recognize you as an independent nation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being a sovereign nation is when you don't have a seat in the UN and most sovereign nations refuse to recognize you as an independent nation.

I really don't think this is the view people on the left should hold. Someone could say the same thing about many nations or groups that don't have a seat in the UN and aren't recognised but are still supported by communists and anarchists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What is a "sovereign nation"?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

De facto, a polity that has a distinct administration which dictates policy within and maintains its own borders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

pretty sure the red light district in my town fits that definition.

Unless you get like seriously scientific about it a sovereign nation is basically vibes based

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sovereignty as a concept in international relations stems from the Treaty of Westphalia, in that each nation has an absolute say within its own borders and that said borders are inviolable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In which case Ukraine was not sovereign after it was overthrown by America's Nazi coup.

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