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Been keeping a keen eye on Bazzite as it seems like a good distro for people like myself who mainly use the desktop pc to play games on. But it doesn't seem like a "typical" distro for a daily driver? How does Bazzite for example differ from Nobara which is another gaming-oriented distro? I'm just curious as I keep hearing good things about Bazzite, and wondering if there would be any benefit as to someone who is using Tumbleweed, to switch to Bazzite right now.

So, if you are a Bazzite user, or have experience: let me know how it went, and if you could daily drive it!

Edit: I guess the same could be asked for ChimeraOS?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (19 children)

I am not a fan because they install all that WINE stuff on the system level which is a huge security degradation.

Running WINE through Bottles with the latest protonGE through PupGUI works on all distros.

If they removed that I would consider it.

Also they remove Firefox and Flatpak Firefox can only use seccomp filters, not sandboxes, which less secure. And due to an rpm-ostree issue those removed packages are never reinstallable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

I am not a fan because they install all that WINE stuff on the system level which is a huge security degradation.

I disagree with this. Sure, it could be made more secure, but Wine, on it's own isn't, any greater security risk compared to any other scripting runtime such as say Python, which is also installed at the system level. Ultimately it's up to the user to get their executables from trustworthy sources - and whether it's a random bash script or an exe, doesn't really make a difference.

As for Firefox, if you're truly concerned about security then you wouldn't be using it in the first place, you'd be using Librewolf, which you can install without any issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Firefox + Arkenfox.js is arguably better for security than any FF fork, such as Librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes, but Arkenfox is also a bit of a mess. Their tooling is very overcomplex with the updater and all. I went through the entire thing and created this helper project which is also pretty hacky but nearly complete.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's also Mercury, which is Librewolf + Arkenfox + more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Interesting project and very curious how they even get it to build. They use Firefox ESR and compile it with lots of optimizations and maaaany redundant configs. I chatted with developers in the FF Matrix about that, they build firefox with 2 arguments or so, build browser, use official branding.

Many things are duplicate and mercury may be unstable because of that.

The biggest problem is that it doesnt use a CI/CD workflow, so that dude does the builds manually and you can hope to get them in time. And them they are distributed as Appimages, which is a different set of problems

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