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[–] [email protected] 403 points 8 months ago (41 children)

DRM-free doesn't mean piracy. GOGs whole business model is built around selling games DRM free. I don't pirate but I do use GOG where possible as I hate DRM - it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn't even solve the problem. DRM is just an expensive waste of money for everyone involved.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (5 children)

The drm-free marketing that gog does has been successful, but it is just marketing. While It's true that games sold on gog are drm-free, every game sold on gog that I've looked into is also drm-free on steam. The only real benefit is that the gog installers are more convenient for backups than using a steam back up tool.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago

Not saying you're wrong, but there's a lot of peace of mind in knowing everything on the platform is drm free, rather than having to do some research. So it is marketing, but it's also a promise of curation so to speak.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

GOG is also a filter too. Everything in the whole store you know is DRM free when with other stores you have to check each game individually.

Steam is also a form of DRM in most cases though either way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How would you play a DRM-free game bought through steam without steam? (Genuine question)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So it's possible to download the installer through steam, store it somewhere and ten years later I can just start the installer without having steam on my system?

Asking out of curiosity, I don't use steam, I never thought that would be possible?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can copy the entire game folder and run it that way, as long as the game is actually DRM free it should work just fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So no installer then? Or can you download that separately?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You would use Steam as the installer, or you can buy it on GoG and they will give you an installer for the game. Entirely depends on what game you're trying to copy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you! I have about 5 games on steam, so I haven't installed it on my system. The only interesting one is Doom 2016, so for a moment I thought I could download the installer as a backup without having to use steam anymore in the future when I do want to play it again. Would have been nice. Thanks for clarifying!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it is because even Steam games without DRM are still modified to work with Steam for things like achievements. There may be games without DRM and without achievements but if a game has either of them it will not work without it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think they'll still work without Steam, otherwise you couldn't play them offline either

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They work without reaching the Steam online service, but they need Steam installed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that makes sense. Does kinda suck.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Steam isn't DRM. They offer a (very weak and basic) DRM for free for developers to use but they don't have too.

For a lot of games you can just install them using steam and then uninstall steam and the games will continue to work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

You mustn't have looked at many games then. As someone who 95% only buys games from GOG, and has a wishlist of 190+ games, the vast majority of the games on the wishlist have DRM in their Steam versions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, Baldur's Gate 3 is a cracked release on the steam version.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

it's a weird case where it only uses steam API and does not hard check it. It attempts to check if the currently associated steam account is allowed to play it and shuts down if you don't, but does not do anything else if it can't detect an account (such as if you have no steam) and launch normally.

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