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Allies fear the US is becoming less reliable, with growing concern over a possible Trump return (apnews.com)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (44 children)

Finland has been in NATO for less than a year. Before that we had a war in which USSR tried to take over the whole country and after failing at that, hovered over us for 50 years before collapsing.

But if you're saying that we shouldn't anymore be afraid of them now that we're in NATO, perhaps you're right. We'll still need to be cognizant of the fact that Russia is our only potential enemy on this planet.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

USSR tried to take over the whole country

These things happen to axis powers during WW2, yes. Perhaps the white Finn government shouldn't have slaughtered its own people, joined with Hitler, kept Russian people in concentration camps, and participated in the seige of Leningrad.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Perhaps the white Finn government shouldn’t have slaughtered its own people

Yeah well civil wars are a bitch. It's difficult to say for sure, but I'm pretty sure if the Reds had won that one, a similar or worse slaughtering would have taken place. At least it happened in every other place where the communists won a civil war.

joined with Hitler, kept Russian people in concentration camps, and participated in the seige of Leningrad.

I have to point out that when USSR first attacked Finland (Winter War), we were not yet allied with Hitler. USSR was actually enacting a secret deal[0] they had made with Hitler about the division of East Europe.

The things you mentioned happened during the Continuation War, for which I think we were rightfully punished.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure if the Reds had won that one, a similar or worse slaughtering would have taken place.

Oh no! Don't massacre all of the antisemites and fascists in my nation!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

but that's just it, they didnt.

let's look at the case of hungary. the respectable conservatives and the fascists murdered hundreds of thousands of fellow hungarians.

the evil russian hordes that conquered the country... didnt. they did super minimal purges. sadly, they let the vast majority of the fascist scum live.

so no, preemptively doing mass killings because the other side would do the same is a fascist/colonialist/racist myth.

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