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ASUS now actively sabotaging attempts to unlock Zenfone 9 bootloader (xdaforums.com)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (25 children)

I used to feel this way until I realized that a large percentage of phone users rarely used earbuds or headphones, including myself. Wired earbuds were a pain in the ass, nobody wanted to carry a coiled up cable in their pocket all day. But a little clamshell with a couple small buds in it fits pretty well into a jeans pocket. Once wireless earbuds hit the market, everyone started using them for a reason.

The only real argument for an analog headphone jack at this point is audio fidelity, and if you care about that you're 1, not using your phone with a cheap DAC to do it and 2, your headphones probably use a 1/4" jack not a 3.5mm one. Wireless protocols are also catching up to analog as far as audio quality as well, and most people expect IP68 from a good phone these days, and you're not getting that with a 3.5mm audio jack or removable battery.

The consumers who care about an audio jack on phones these days are a very vocal minority.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Galaxy S5 was IP67 with a headphone socket, removable battery and dedicated microSD card slot. Others have also existed. Taking like adding a headphone socket costs more than 5 cents is stupid.

I'm a Bluetooth buds convert now, but I'd still like the choice.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

IP67 and IP68 are considerably different. It's basically the difference between water-resistant and water proof. IP67 could handle splashes of water and, at least on paper, brief submersion. In reality, most. IP67 phones did not handle any level of immersion well.

IP68 on the other hand allows phones to be submerged deeper in water and for much longer. You can have IP67 with those features, but IP68 is a different beast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

LoL... Really?

1 number apart, but considerably different. Sure.

Difference between x5 and x7 maybe. To pass x6 a device must be submerged to a depth of 1m for 30 minutes.

IPx7 is for a device intended to operate permanently submerged. So not a phone.

That fact your picking the difference shows you don't know the difference.

IP67 is just a marketing gimmick. I'd be impressed if a phone with this rating would endure 12 months submerged and still function. Who needs this anyway?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

IP67 in reality won't last 30 minutes submerged in most cases. I've had flagship level IP67 devices get damaged by water ingress by being splashed or dunked a couple inches into a pool for less than a second. My Pixel 8 Pro goes into the shower, bath, pool, hot tub, and rain with me and it's never skipped a beat.

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