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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (30 children)

There's a big difference between trying to resign and someone saying you are trying to resign. When a man really, genuinely wants to resign, then he simply does so.

According to the accounts you describe, did the people beg him to stay or something? What prevented his resignation?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

https://socialistmlmusings.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/stalins-four-attempts-at-resignation/

VOICE FROM THE FLOOR – We need to elect comrade Stalin as the General Secretary of the CC CPSU and Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR.

STALIN – No! I am asking that you relieve me of the two posts!

MALENKOV – coming to the tribune: Comrades! We should all unanimously ask comrade Stalin, our leader and our teacher, to be again the General Secretary of the CC CPSU.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was just two men that asked him to stay? How convenient. How can you trust that? I barely trust my own government, much less someone else's. People lie, and people ask people to lie. This is very common on Earth.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  1. click into the source please (or at least read the URL), he tried to resign 4 separate times and every single time the motion was even entertained he was voted to stay unanimously, once even by Trotsky's delegation.

  2. if you want to turn this into "your sources are fabricated", well then, no YOU, and with that, we're done here. I've seen this play out too many times to bother with it again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Every source is potentially fabricated, this is inescapable. All sources should be approached with some doubt at all times, or you are not performing your due diligence. This is simply necessary, due to the fundamental issues involved with the study of history, where we only have records made by humans, who are imperfect.

I did read it after I posted, I agree my reply was premature. I had assumed you highlighted the parts you did because that was all I would need, but that was just an inappropriate assumption of mine and I apologize.

In this case, even assuming the source is 100% accurate, this could still be very complicated, instead of being as simple as it sounds. Did he bribe any of them? We must consider it, since it is possible.

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