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[–] [email protected] 156 points 9 months ago (19 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Socialism by definition is not anti establishment. It's anti current establishment but the philosophy is geared towards a bigger government "establishment".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I'm pretty sure that's the difference between anti establishing and anti government. the "establishment" is the established power structure. technically fascists ARE anti establishment in most places. and that's a very good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fascists only pretend to be anti establishment their whole thing is preserving capitalism when it enters crisis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

hmm, that feels a bit like splitting hairs. at that point we have to argue whether the establishment is capitalism, or the government. and that just seems like a pedantic argument about semantics that will accomplish nothing. point being, most fascists want to overthrow their current government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The government is part of the structure of capitalism though. It is an expression of the power of capital.

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